Squad008 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Like the title says, is the following unacceptable or is it just me: Bought a very expensive CGC graded key off eBay (roughly $6,000). The Seller has mailed it via USPS Media Mail. This means no insurance, longer time in the mail, and it doesn't qualify for media mail by USPS standards. Shipment was sent from an in state seller on Monday, would be 1 day via priority mail but it hasn't arrived yet and who knows when it will arrive. Can't comment on packaging and won't list eBay seller id because I haven't received the comic yet to find out if there are issues, but all things considered, when someone pays that much for an item, to save a few bucks on shipping by mailing it media mail just seems beyond unacceptable to me. Am I being unreasonable on this? Edit: Thanks for all the responses, didn't mean to make this a big deal, and definitely will not give an eBay seller a bad reputation if it is delivered safe and sound and packaged properly. There is tracking on the package, actually got a notification that it is at a nearby post office being held for pickup at customer request. I didn't request that, so unless the seller requested it, possibly it means that there is insufficient postage? Either way, I'm happier seeing the package at the post office prior to delivery. If the package is beat up I can deny acceptance, can also try to open it there to have the post office worker confirm if it is damaged or not. Will give an update after I go tomorrow. If it was me, I would send registered mail. Always do when it is a comic over a certain value. Edited May 10, 2018 by Squad008 update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Very tacky at best even if the book arrives safely and fairly soon. Completely terrible for the seller if it never arrives since you get your money back and he is out the book. Definitely not standard practices by any stretch of the imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder! Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Wow, I can't believe it. As the seller, why would you even want to save a couple of bucks with Media Mail on a 6K book?? Wouldn't you want to insure it and get signature confirmation? I know I would. Wow. I hope your book arrives without defects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdinsSecrets Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Can't imagine how a seller wouldn't be willing to pony up for $50-100 shipping charges on a $6k book... newshane and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 18 minutes ago, Squad008 said: Am I being unreasonable on this? Absolutely not. Completely unacceptable for a book of that value. In fact, comics don't qualify for media mail. If the post office catches it, then the person slated to receive the item is on the hook for the extra shipping charges that the seller should have paid in the first place. I've personally seen people get shafted at the post office when they came in to pick up a package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faster friends Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Media mail can be insured and have signature confirmation. But still he is being cheap not to go priority or even overnight. Did you ask him why he shipped media?? On a $6000 book as a buyer I would have been crystal clear on method of shipping. Trust no one! ▫️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mcknowitall Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Why would someone buy such an expensive item and not demand insurance, and registered return receipt? Did the seller list the method of shipment? If so, did the buyer read it? If so, did the buyer offer to pay for a more secure method? If the seller did not list the method, why would a buyer expect that the item would be handled in the most secure method, unless the item is not what it seems and the seller knows that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder! Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 By the way, Media Mail packages get treated like garbage by the Post Office. I have had some boxes arrive in awful shape. Not to mention they are subject to inspection. Also, they tend to take forever to deliver and more time in the hands of the Post Office is a baaad thing. DeadOne and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 It is unacceptable. Even more so if the seller did not advertise it as being shipped via media mail on the listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I would never... And seller is the one assuming all the risk, big roll of the dice on his part... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mcknowitall Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Just now, darkstar said: It is unacceptable. Even more so if the seller did not advertise it as being shipped via media mail on the listing. Then it would be unacceptable for a buyer to agree to spend $6,000.00, advertised or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mcknowitall Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Callaway29 said: I would never... And seller is the one assuming all the risk, big roll of the dice on his part... More than that. It is foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Should be 'bombproof' protection on that. There was a thread once that showed a Walking Dead 1 9.8 slab practically smashed into pieces while in transit. A tragic sight. Edited May 9, 2018 by Ken Aldred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squad008 Posted May 9, 2018 Author Share Posted May 9, 2018 Ok so I am not being unreasonable. Seller did not list how they were shipping it. It was a or best offer item and after he accepted, I paid and emailed the Seller about the shipping and making sure it was shipped safe and secure. Never got a response, just a notice the next day that it was shipped. I guess I am a little naive to think that it goes without saying that when someone spends that much on an item, the Seller respects the cost and takes time to properly package and ship. In retrospect, I should have gotten more info before paying, but as a general rule, shipping anything of that value via Media Mail is just absurd to me. I can't help but feel like there will be more issues when, and if, the comic arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder! Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Squad008 said: Ok so I am not being unreasonable. Seller did not list how they were shipping it. It was a or best offer item and after he accepted, I paid and emailed the Seller about the shipping and making sure it was shipped safe and secure. Never got a response, just a notice the next day that it was shipped. I guess I am a little naive to think that it goes without saying that when someone spends that much on an item, the Seller respects the cost and takes time to properly package and ship. In retrospect, I should have gotten more info before paying, but as a general rule, shipping anything of that value via Media Mail is just absurd to me. I can't help but feel like there will be more issues when, and if, the comic arrives. It's eBay, you won and item, you're expected to pay. You did your part. You messaged the seller, same as I would have done, but you obviously can't control him (make him respond, make him package safely, etc.) The silver lining is that you are the buyer and have all sorts of protections in place. If it is damaged, you shouldn't have a problem getting a refund. It just really sucks when you want a nice book for a certain price, find one, and have the deal ruined over something like shipping. Still hoping your book makes it to you safely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kav Posted May 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 9, 2018 Neutral feedback: Seller didnt list shipping method didnt reply to inquiry. Media mail for $6000 item. badback83, Red84, Readcomix and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 yeesh. everything everyone else said. I would want to know what the stated shipping method was (and the charge) vs what he actually did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red84 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Its unacceptable and the stupidity of the seller is pretty incredible. I hope the book arrives, but in reality, its the seller who should really be hoping it arrives because he's on the hook with no tracking or insurance. mosconi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Squad008 said: Like the title says, is the following unacceptable or is it just me: Bought a very expensive CGC graded key off eBay (roughly $6,000). The Seller has mailed it via USPS Media Mail. This means no insurance, longer time in the mail, and it doesn't qualify for media mail by USPS standards. Shipment was sent from an in state seller on Monday, would be 1 day via priority mail but it hasn't arrived yet and who knows when it will arrive. Can't comment on packaging and won't list eBay seller id because I haven't received the comic yet to find out if there are issues, but all things considered, when someone pays that much for an item, to save a few bucks on shipping by mailing it media mail just seems beyond unacceptable to me. Am I being unreasonable on this? Media mail for a $6000 item is akin to an act of religiously ebullient faith in the post office. First off, media mail is subject to rifling by postal personnel. When opened and gone through, done so to check that the contents conform to media mail standards. It doesn't. A $6000 comic in a graded slab is no longer a periodical. Not any more than an 1804 Silver dollar in MS70 would be considered "pocket change". It's considered an antique (not a periodical at this point) by the post office if and when identified, and if push comes to shove, the parcel disappearing or damaged, the seller can basically go jump in the lake as far as the post office is concerned. This should have been sent to you either Expressmail, signature required, or by priority mail, registered, again signature required upon delivery. Edited May 9, 2018 by James J Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Mcknowitall Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Red84 said: Its unacceptable and the stupidity of the seller is pretty incredible. I hope the book arrives, but in reality, its the seller who should really be hoping it arrives because he's on the hook with no tracking or insurance. ...The buyer is just as subject to the same description of incredible, though, in expectation of protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
