valiantman Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 14 hours ago, miraclemet said: Zombies aren't exclusive to Wd, and if the revival is new stories, maybe not from Kirkman then does it keep the ties to the comic (meaning does it make people want to go buy the comic and help keep the #1 desirable?) What is the comic (or comic magazine) first appearance of zombies? (Possibly it's Menace #5 (1953)?) Should the popularity of Walking Dead have already pushed collectors toward those original zombie collectibles? Would the return of zombie-mania (eventually, since it does keep coming back after it's dead... like a... something... I'll think of the word) be a good thing for Walking Dead #1 or would it be better to find the original zombie book(s) and stock up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I think there's a limited life span of any IP that is owned by the original creator, until and unless it's sold to a corporation that is primarily interested in keeping active as an IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justafan Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I think WD #1 and the keys from issues 1-20 especially characters that are still alive will retain some sort of a floor but the show lost a ton of viewers once Spoiler Glenn and Abraham were killed off. They lost more after Carl died. But the ratings may not just be due to the deaths as the storyline has suffered and just dragged on way too long. They lost me a season ago but I found that my DVR had recorded this last season. I tried watching it again and saw 3 episodes. For a bit I thought I was getting back into it but then realized my DVR had missed recording 2-3 episodes in between and what I thought was the show speeding up with back to back action episodes was actually the fact that I had skipped 2 or 3 episodes of boring content barely relevant to the progression of the show. And that's the issue with the show. They just drag it out. Maybe someday someone will put together an episode guide like they did with Star Wars, that lists which episodes to watch and which to avoid with a 1 liner describing the only 1 or 2 bits of relevant info in the excluded episodes. Don't forget, there's typically been a dip in sales prices between the seasons with a rise in prices once the new season starts. One of the WD threads here has a trend line showing this or maybe just look it up in GPA. I think it'll always be at least a $1k book. The 9.8 Black label may even always be a $2k book. Not sure about the 9.9's. But if you bought it at $2k or more and were expecting it to keep going you may be disappointed. As for the other issues in 1-100, the time to sell may have already passed. Not sure what the going rate is for NM raw but at one point it used to be $20/issue for non-key raws from issue 50 and below. Might be more of a buyers market now. I don't know, maybe if somehow the writing and tempo got way better or they decided to release a movie where a huge reveal in the origin of the zombie disease or hunt for a cure was progressed, you might see a spike again. Kevin... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGH Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Season 8 was awful.. If the book was written the way season 8 was filmed It would amount to each page in the comic book being a full spread headshot of a character discussing the situation or simply staring into the distance with only one or two pages with a few panels with characters actually doing anything. It's no wonder interest has dropped, the writers gave up retrothecollector, Kevin..., spracknetch23 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 People are complaining about a modern, non variant that sells for $2200+? -J. PS: Walking Dead is still Image's top selling comic book title by far and will, according to Kirkman, continue for years after the show ultimately does end. I remember when little details like that are what drove interest in comic book back issues. Harley Troy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 13 hours ago, lightninglad said: I see Walking Dead as being akin to Star Trek. It'll die out with the masses, still have a cult following, and have a revival at some point. But it may be 30 years down the road. The quality of the core show has definitely hurt product all around. I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles may be a more apt comparison... both were small indie books with surprising breakout success. And there's been plenty of times since 1984 that TMNT (as a "property") has been on life support... RockMyAmadeus and F For Fake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Brock said: I think Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles may be a more apt comparison... both were small indie books with surprising breakout success. And there's been plenty of times since 1984 that TMNT (as a "property") has been on life support... Indeed, and Stan Sakai could should be a zillionaire . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeholdersEye Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 TWD is not at all like Cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin where the values skyrocketed quickly for now reason and became a roller coaster of peaks and valleys. I'd also say the values did increase due to the TV show and everyone knows that the lifespan of a TV show has an inevitable death (unless you're a cartoon like the Simpsons), be it Seinfeld, MASH, The Cosby Show, Cheers, etc. - - So, anyone buying it based on the TV show retaining popularity with longevity will probably be disappointed by that fact. The comic book series has been pretty awesome and well written story arcs for the most part. It seems to be able to sustain itself as an ongoing dramatic series with new characters and old ones dying to be replaced. If handled without any silly "shark jumping" publicity stunts, it can go on indefinitely under the helm of Robert Kirkman's writing. I'm sure another writer can refresh the creative, but another writer can also easily destroy the series too. As for artwork, Adlard's work has been great in setting the mood, much better than Tony Moore's cartoonish looking art. I'd say the best replacement for Adlard would be a more noir styled artist like Frank Miller, Tim Sale, Mike Mignola, Ryan Sook, Sean Phillips, John Cassaday, Klaus Janson, or Jae Lee. I think the print run has established the issue as being scarce relative to comic book print runs, 'tho not at all impossible to find in any condition if you're willing to throw money at it, so it's not one of those truly hard to find comics. I think the demand continues to outnumber the supply, so it's not going to dump anytime soon, it may dip and drop a bit, but won't become like what "The Elementals" and "The Fish Police" were in the 1980's, from hot to dollar bind fodder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 17 hours ago, lightninglad said: I see Walking Dead as being akin to Star Trek. It'll die out with the masses, still have a cult following, and have a revival at some point. But it may be 30 years down the road. The quality of the core show has definitely hurt product all around. The magic of Star Trek has always, always been the characters. People don't love ST...they love Kirk, and Spock, and Bones, and Uhura, and "Oh myyyy" and Picard and Data, and 7 of 9...etc etc etc. WD, on the other hand, has a nasty habit of killing everyone off. And Andrea's never coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 4 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said: The magic of Star Trek has always, always been the characters. People don't love ST...they love Kirk, and Spock, and Bones, and Uhura, and "Oh myyyy" and Picard and Data, and 7 of 9...etc etc etc. WD, on the other hand, has a nasty habit of killing everyone off. And Andrea's never coming back. Exactly. I loved Glenn... once he's gone... good bye.. don't really care about Rick or Negan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Wolverinex said: Exactly. I loved Glenn... once he's gone... good bye.. don't really care about Rick or Negan. +1 - I watched a couple episodes after the smashing and it just didn't feel right and i"ve not watched another episode. Way - way too many shows to watch for me spend time on a show I'm not in to. WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 On 5/14/2018 at 8:14 AM, Grendel72 said: Even if WD #1 9.8 does peter out to say $800 , its still quite remarkable for a non super hero book. I honestly never imagined it would reach the prices it did. Certainly the best has come and gone. I still follow the show and buy the omnibus when it comes out but not sure how long I will continue. I've always thought that a NM would settle in between $500-750 or so, which is definitely solid for a non-hero book. 9.8s might settle in around $1000, again, a great level for a non-hero book. I think there is enough collector interest to sustain those numbers. $2,000+ for a 9.8 seemed bubblicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oat Willy1 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) Might depend on how much worse the show gets too. Whether of not it just peters out slowly or gets so bad that it's a total joke and becomes seen as extremely uncool. To me it's been the latter the last year or two, due to the horrible writing and execution They also need to nix The Talking Dead. This isn't event TV anymore, and the talking it up and the hype they attempt after each episode on TD is laughable Edited May 15, 2018 by Oat Willy1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 You all are a bunch of critiques aren't you. Walking dead will stand the test of time. In one way shape or form, just like all other pop culture properties you will see comics, Video games, cosplay, RPG, trading cards, t-shirts, syndication, action figures, funko pops, mud runs, etc. etc. over the course of the next 50 years. It isn't going away anytime soon. Multiple books have been written, spin off tv show, and future potential for more with Kirkman being a powerhouse player now with Amazon, he won't let his baby die a slow death. Harley Troy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broke as a Joke Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 The problem is..the next time zombies become popular in the mainstream it isn't guaranteed to be associated with the Walking Dead. If you love the show/book then it's cool to own one, but if you have it for "investment" purposes it may be time to cash out. Second Blight, WolverineX and 1Cool 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 4 hours ago, 1p36DSA said: You all are a bunch of critiques aren't you. Walking dead will stand the test of time. In one way shape or form, just like all other pop culture properties you will see comics, Video games, cosplay, RPG, trading cards, t-shirts, syndication, action figures, funko pops, mud runs, etc. etc. over the course of the next 50 years. It isn't going away anytime soon. Multiple books have been written, spin off tv show, and future potential for more with Kirkman being a powerhouse player now with Amazon, he won't let his baby die a slow death. Found the guy hoarding WD comics FineCollector and Second Blight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 7 hours ago, 1p36DSA said: You all are a bunch of critiques aren't you. Walking dead will stand the test of time. In one way shape or form, just like all other pop culture properties you will see comics, Video games, cosplay, RPG, trading cards, t-shirts, syndication, action figures, funko pops, mud runs, etc. etc. over the course of the next 50 years. It isn't going away anytime soon. Multiple books have been written, spin off tv show, and future potential for more with Kirkman being a powerhouse player now with Amazon, he won't let his baby die a slow death. You forgot Beanie Babies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oat Willy1 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 8 hours ago, 1p36DSA said: You all are a bunch of critiques aren't you. Walking dead will stand the test of time. In one way shape or form, just like all other pop culture properties you will see comics, Video games, cosplay, RPG, trading cards, t-shirts, syndication, action figures, funko pops, mud runs, etc. etc. over the course of the next 50 years. It isn't going away anytime soon. Multiple books have been written, spin off tv show, and future potential for more with Kirkman being a powerhouse player now with Amazon, he won't let his baby die a slow death. Critics RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 You guys are funny. Walking Dead isnt going anywhere. F For Fake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Time to turn it into Franklins baby, Benjamins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
