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What is happening to WD #1 value?!?!
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3 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:

As Image's best selling title for the last what, ten years straight, it has helped titles like Saga, Seven to Eternity, etc. be possible.

Come on now Jay, let’s not get silly. 

Fiona Staples and BKV made Saga happen seeing that Image properties are creator owned...not to mention that they are both very talented at what they do. The same goes for Remender and Opena with Seven to Eternity. 

If your point is TWD saved Image or something along those lines, I’m not too sure I’m buying it. 

 

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52 minutes ago, newshane said:

I strongly disagree. Barring catastrophe, the comic will never see 1K again.

Serious question...

Why not?

I only ask because if I recall not too long ago, maybe two to three years ago it was much closer to $1000 for a 9.8 than it was to $2000 for blue labels. May have been as many as four years, but still a random jump in price because copies are almost always available. 

Heck I am even passed on a black label 9.8 that was listed on the boards for less than $1500, as did everyone else that saw it posted.

I don’t have GPA but I’d love to see the history of it for the last couple years of anyone’s open to sharing that info, cause to me it took off for no real reason and from what I keep reading is on its way back down.

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9 minutes ago, IntoAnother said:

Serious question...

Why not?

 

1. Supply and demand.

2. Cultural impact. The show is on a rapid decline, but the initial wave was historical. 

3. Corporate impact.

4. It's just an important book that retains a lot of desirability in the long-term. Sure, we may see some fluctuation, but I don't think the bottom will reach 1K. Might get within a few hundred bucks, but I don't think it will sink that low.

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34 minutes ago, newshane said:

1. Supply and demand.

2. Cultural impact. The show is on a rapid decline, but the initial wave was historical. 

3. Corporate impact.

4. It's just an important book that retains a lot of desirability in the long-term. Sure, we may see some fluctuation, but I don't think the bottom will reach 1K. Might get within a few hundred bucks, but I don't think it will sink that low.

I’m not on board with the supply and demand aspect, because once the shows done I have to imagine quite a bit of demand is going to go away as everyone will simply move on to something new. 

I certainly agree with the cultural impact, it’s been a big deal for a long time and will likely be around for quite a while more in some way but that’s still not making me a believer. Mainly due to the zombie aspect, I just feel it has a shelf life but that’s just my opinion. 

I can’t speak on the corporate impact. I know it has to be massive numbers but that’s really a world I’ve never familiarized myself with. 

Agreed, it is a very iconic book to own. I know I wish I owned one. 

For those that own one, I hope it keeps its value and then some for you all, but I have my doubts. It may be best like a few others have said to part with it now and pick one up when it possibly dips in price a bit shortly after the show is done with. 

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1 hour ago, IntoAnother said:

Come on now Jay, let’s not get silly. 

Fiona Staples and BKV made Saga happen seeing that Image properties are creator owned...not to mention that they are both very talented at what they do. The same goes for Remender and Opena with Seven to Eternity. 

If your point is TWD saved Image or something along those lines, I’m not too sure I’m buying it. 

 

Lol I'm not saying that.  

But the Walking Dead is definitely the butter on Image's bread.  It has been and remains their marquee title.  

And the book hasn't sold anywhere near $1000 in a 9.8 in over six years.  It is a modern age pilar and a bona fide grail to many collectors, particularly young ones.  

Book ain't going nowhere.  

-J.

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39 minutes ago, Jaydogrules said:

Lol I'm not saying that.  

But the Walking Dead is definitely the butter on Image's bread.  It has been and remains their marquee title.  

And the book hasn't sold anywhere near $1000 in a 9.8 in over six years.  It is a modern age pilar and a bona fide grail to many collectors, particularly young ones.  

Book ain't going nowhere.  

-J.

I have not doubts it’s likely the best seller for Image, and I don’t even pay attention to the numbers. I’m certainly aware it’s a big deal though that’s for sure. 

Six years though? 

That sounds odd to me because I don’t think I’ve even been here that long and passed on a 9.8 black label very close to $1000 no more than four years ago. Can you or anyone else please post some factual GPA information showing this? 

I’m just curious is all, this books has always always been an interest of mine. It won’t effect me either way. 

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40 minutes ago, IntoAnother said:

I have not doubts it’s likely the best seller for Image, and I don’t even pay attention to the numbers. I’m certainly aware it’s a big deal though that’s for sure. 

Six years though? 

That sounds odd to me because I don’t think I’ve even been here that long and passed on a 9.8 black label very close to $1000 no more than four years ago. Can you or anyone else please post some factual GPA information showing this? 

I’m just curious is all, this books has always always been an interest of mine. It won’t effect me either way. 

The info I quoted you is from GPA.  The last ~$1000 sale was in Feb. 2012.  There is no price difference between white and black labels.  

-J.

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4 minutes ago, IntoAnother said:

Is it no recorded sales differences between the reg and black label, or is that recorded somewhere?

No records kept and no real or consistent difference from what I've ever seen.  Especially now. 

-J.

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The show is gradually getting worse and the comic isn't that far behind in its suckability. Die hard fans of the show don't collect the comics, they buy TPBs and will spend $500 at a convention to get autographs from the actors but wouldn't drop $500 on a WD #1 CGC 9.8 if you were having a fire sale, just the facts man.

There's no new characters to spec on, that ship has sailed far far away. Even if Alpha, Lydia, Beta, The Whisperers, or God forbid friggin Princess become major characters on the show and last for multiple seasons, everyone bought 10 copies or more of each of those issues and will basically be selling them to each other, or trying to. I only ever had 1 copy of WD #1, paid $400, sold it to a friend for $800 and he ended up getting a 9.6, he was happy, I was happy (though we both graded it at 9.2, so good for him!)

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56 minutes ago, 1p36DSA said:

there is still a difference between the black and white labels, until you show substantial data that shows otherwise I don't believe it.

Can you show any data showing that a difference does exist?

I would imagine a slight difference does exist yet I have never seen any information that proves it. 

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51 minutes ago, IntoAnother said:

Can you show any data showing that a difference does exist?

I would imagine a slight difference does exist yet I have never seen any information that proves it. 

I addressed this a while back in another thread.  I linked about 16 recent sales at the time, grade for grade as well as raw that showed NO difference in pricing, and that remains the case now.

-J.

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I might be out of place here, but I thought the black label was considered the official “first printing” and considers an “error printing” of the book which is why they generally cost a little more. I’ve seen recent prices on the bay with the black labels being higher.

Haven’t focused too much on sales but that what I’ve noticed. Unless of course folks are trying to cash out the prices tend to be a little less.

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25 minutes ago, rogue14 said:

I might be out of place here, but I thought the black label was considered the official “first printing” and considers an “error printing” of the book which is why they generally cost a little more. I’ve seen recent prices on the bay with the black labels being higher.

Haven’t focused too much on sales but that what I’ve noticed. Unless of course folks are trying to cash out the prices tend to be a little less.

Not really:

9.6:

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Raw:

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All within the same price range of what they sell for.  

-J.

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