Kevin... Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 (edited) I, along with many collectors, have considered WD 1 one of the most solid rock solid moderns out there for several years...but over the last year or so have just seen some disturbing trends, NM copies are down nearly 20%. IMO the show has just lost it's edge, is it tied to the show that closely? Time to liquidate or buy now? Thoughts... Edited May 13, 2018 by Kevin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FineCollector Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Kevin... said: I, along with many collectors, have considered WD 1 one of the most solid rock solid moderns out there for several years... Somewhere in there is your answer, I'm just not sure if you'll see it. Aweandlorder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin... Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, FineCollector said: Somewhere in there is your answer, I'm just not sure if you'll see it. I don't see it actually. Hence the thread. Pls enlighten me! I would agree that Moderns are more volatile than older books, but relative to other high price moderns I think most collectors would agree that WD1 has traditionally been pretty solid. Are you saying this is wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 It will probably be a blue chip forever. How big of a window are you looking at for market fluctuation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin... Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just now, ygogolak said: It will probably be a blue chip forever. How big of a window are you looking at for market fluctuation? Roughly 18 months. Based on some rough GPA analysis looks like it's been trending downward since late '16. Something that may be bigger than just a few random sales. I hope it will be....hell, there's even Walking Dead theme park rides now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason4 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 It’s not just number one I’ve lost a lot on many key issues the last year. I see it continuing to rot (pun) in price and would sell now but if you hold you need to probably hold for at least 5 years to not lose money and hope it has a revival. Just my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastballspecial Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Walking Dead is suffering from fatigue and its fan base is frustrated with the new show. Its not a key I would be buying currently or anytime in the future unless you want it for your personal collection. If that's the case then now wouldn't be a bad time to pick it up while prices are now lower. WolverineX, Semicentennial, ___ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin... Posted May 13, 2018 Author Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, fastballspecial said: Walking Dead is suffering from fatigue and its fan base is frustrated with the new show. Its not a key I would be buying currently or anytime in the future unless you want it for your personal collection. If that's the case then now wouldn't be a bad time to pick it up while prices are now lower. Well said brother, I think u nailed it. ___ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500Club Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 There are historical precedents for what you are seeing. After Marvel overused the Punisher in the 90s, ASM 129 was soft for several years. Often, these serve as good entry points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, 500Club said: There are historical precedents for what you are seeing. After Marvel overused the Punisher in the 90s, ASM 129 was soft for several years. Often, these serve as good entry points. The difference possibly being that once the show is done, is there a reasonable revival? Punisher had his comeback, and then haste bump from the Netflix show. It's only a good entry point if there's a future revival...but some things just stay dead (see what I did There?) Say the show dies out over the next 3-4 years.... What's the IP to revive? Zombies aren't exclusive to Wd, and if the revival is new stories, maybe not from Kirkman then does it keep the ties to the comic (meaning does it make people want to go buy the comic and help keep the #1 desirable?) WolverineX, valiantman and Kevin... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 hours ago, fastballspecial said: Walking Dead is suffering from fatigue and its fan base is frustrated with the new show. Its not a key I would be buying currently or anytime in the future unless you want it for your personal collection. If that's the case then now wouldn't be a bad time to pick it up while prices are now lower. +1 Lots of fatigue from the show... lots of people are not watching it anymore retrothecollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, miraclemet said: The difference possibly being that once the show is done, is there a reasonable revival? Punisher had his comeback, and then haste bump from the Netflix show. It's only a good entry point if there's a future revival...but some things just stay dead (see what I did There?) Say the show dies out over the next 3-4 years.... What's the IP to revive? Zombies aren't exclusive to Wd, and if the revival is new stories, maybe not from Kirkman then does it keep the ties to the comic (meaning does it make people want to go buy the comic and help keep the #1 desirable?) Exactly, this isn't TMNT retrothecollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, Wolverinex said: Exactly, this isn't TMNT Agreed from an IP perspective. Only way I could see a semi- revival was if someone bought it as a horror movie franchise, but again, the stories would be totally different cause movies arent episodic like the book and the TV show. WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Zed's dead baby . . . Zed's dead. BishopT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightninglad Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I see Walking Dead as being akin to Star Trek. It'll die out with the masses, still have a cult following, and have a revival at some point. But it may be 30 years down the road. The quality of the core show has definitely hurt product all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grib Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, lightninglad said: I see Walking Dead as being akin to Star Trek. It'll die out with the masses, still have a cult following, and have a revival at some point. But it may be 30 years down the road. The quality of the core show has definitely hurt product all around. So if I was in my 30's it would be wise to buy and hold on for 20-25 years than sell when it gets revived. When I was young I thought about buying Spider-Man #1 for $300.00 but I figured it was way to much. Stupid me . If you have money and time, play. Hutch88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grendel72 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Even if WD #1 9.8 does peter out to say $800 , its still quite remarkable for a non super hero book. I honestly never imagined it would reach the prices it did. Certainly the best has come and gone. I still follow the show and buy the omnibus when it comes out but not sure how long I will continue. retrothecollector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Walking Dead comics are due for a large price drop across the board. Those arguing the books would maintain their prices without a hit show are fooling themselves. I'm not saying Waling Dead 1 will be a $1 book but I do think the prices may drop in half for pretty much every book if the show doesn't reinvent itself. All things come to an end. Randall Dowling, retrothecollector and Mercury Man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post F For Fake Posted May 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2018 IF WD 1 drops to half price, I'll pick one up, for sure. The show may be sputtering out, and I'm sure we've long since seen the peak of the show's popularity, but that book is still ridiculously low-printed compared to current, and I'd say future, demand. Only, what, 7000 of them to go around? Even if the show is canceled, and fandom continues to taper off, that whole property was an honest to goodness cultural phenomenon. Things that are that popular don't just disappear forever. There will always be demand for the book, as the #1 key of the modern age. It may drop quite a bit, but it will never go away. WD 1 isn't a flash in the pan like Sixth Gun or whatever. That book is legit. ___, Kevin..., retrothecollector and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyTheAbyss Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Last night a CGC 9.8 auction copy sold for $2,200 (one bid). I don't know how legit that was because of the single bid...but it's the latest data point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...