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If great story/art determined value: What books would be keys?
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Just now, AJD said:

Yes, also a solid recommendation. But the Rosa series is better if you've read the Barks tales it extrapolates from first. (I reckon.)

is the banks stuff reprinted.  Could you point me in the right direction to read the first 10?

 

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What a strange world that would be and one I would not like to be apart of.  I prefer my keys to be picked based on tv shows or movies that may or may not have anything to do with the comic book itself.

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2 minutes ago, 1Cool said:

What a strange world that would be and one I would not like to be apart of.  I prefer my keys to be picked based on tv shows or movies that may or may not have anything to do with the comic book itself.

agreed and in addition cover art by an artist that contributes absolutely nothing to the story art

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I like this thread.

though, actually some books with great content are considered mini keys and do have the potential of blowing up a bit if the story is good enough for use as the basis of a movie such as with X-men 141 DOFP.

Kravens last hunt was really good, too. i reread that storyline many times and my copies show it. 

 

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 A quick list, mostly off the top of my head...

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Russ Heath's stellar run on "Our Army at War".

Nearly ANYTHING produced by Alex Toth during the 1970s in particular.

Nick Cardy's Bat Lash in "Showcase" 76 and "Bat Lash" 1-7.

"Valerian" by Christin & Mezieres.

"Jonny Quest" by William Messner-Loebs & various.

"The Incal" by Jodorowsky & Moebius.

"Sugar and Spike" by Sheldon Mayer.

"Nexus" by Baron and Rude.

"The Spirit" by Will Eisner.

"Fantastic Four" #44 - 100 by Kirby, Lee, & Sinnott.

ALL of Jack Kirby's "Fourth World" comics.

"Jonah Hex" (first series).

"Lone Wolf and Cub".

"Tarzan" (DC series) #207 - 235 by Joe Kubert (esp. the earlier issues).

"Sinister House of Secret Love" #3 by Toth and Doug Wildey.

Marvel's "Tomb of Dracula".

"Aquaman" #49 - 56 by Skeates & Aparo.

"Rio" by Wildey.

"Mysterious Suspense" #1 by Ditko.

The Star Wars newspaper strips (collected) by Archie Goodwin and Al Williamson.

"Modesty Blaise" (DC one-shot) by O'Donnell and Giordano.

"The Phantom" #67 - 74 by Don Newton.

etc, etc. ...

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So many cool comics, so little time...

 

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34 minutes ago, chrisco37 said:

Byrne FF

Simonson Thor

 

 

These are in my reading pipeline based on info I found here on the boards. Bought reading sets of Simonson Thlr from Boardie Mr. Sneeze and reading set of  Byrne FF from the fine men and women of Bedrock Comics, live and in person during my visits to H-town. 

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Staying with my limitation of cheap box fodder, but very high quality…

 

The Golden Age m/s by James Robinson and Paul Smith

Cinder and Ashe by Gerry Conway and J L Garcia-Lopez

Clandestine by Alan Davis

Omac m/s by John Byrne

Hawkworld by Tim Truman

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6 hours ago, jools&jim said:

 A quick list, mostly off the top of my head...

=====================================

Russ Heath's stellar run on "Our Army at War".

Nearly ANYTHING produced by Alex Toth during the 1970s in particular.

Nick Cardy's Bat Lash in "Showcase" 76 and "Bat Lash" 1-7.

"Valerian" by Christin & Mezieres.

"Jonny Quest" by William Messner-Loebs & various.

"The Incal" by Jodorowsky & Moebius.

"Sugar and Spike" by Sheldon Mayer.

"Nexus" by Baron and Rude.

"The Spirit" by Will Eisner.

"Fantastic Four" #44 - 100 by Kirby, Lee, & Sinnott.

ALL of Jack Kirby's "Fourth World" comics.

"Jonah Hex" (first series).

"Lone Wolf and Cub".

"Tarzan" (DC series) #207 - 235 by Joe Kubert (esp. the earlier issues).

"Sinister House of Secret Love" #3 by Toth and Doug Wildey.

Marvel's "Tomb of Dracula".

"Aquaman" #49 - 56 by Skeates & Aparo.

"Rio" by Wildey.

"Mysterious Suspense" #1 by Ditko.

The Star Wars newspaper strips (collected) by Archie Goodwin and Al Williamson.

"Modesty Blaise" (DC one-shot) by O'Donnell and Giordano.

"The Phantom" #67 - 74 by Don Newton.

etc, etc. ...

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So many cool comics, so little time...

 

I remember when Lone Wolf and Cub first came out in 1987. Frank Miller gave it his approval and BAM I was there. Got very repetitive very quickly.  As a side note: in 1987 I saw a film marathon of the Baby Cart Assassin movies which are based on the old japanese Lone Wolf comics (Roger Corman would take the best parts of the series and make the compaltion film Shogun's Assassin) . Saw it at the old Sing Lee theater in downtown Los Angeles, andold Japanese only theater going back to the 30s. I had to put my feet up in the chair in front of me because if I didn't roaches crawled up my leg.

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3 hours ago, justafan said:

actually some books with great content are considered mini keys

Fixed.

Of course there's nothing preventing books with great writing/art from containing important content. That should go without saying.

3 hours ago, 1Cool said:

What a strange world that would be and one I would not like to be apart of.  I prefer my keys to be picked based on tv shows or movies that may or may not have anything to do with the comic book itself.

TV shows and movies don't make keys, they just affect the value of keys disproportionately.

They can also affect the value of non-keys, usually those with a direct story relation, but sometimes even those that they really shouldn't (I'm looking at you, Infinity War :facepalm:).

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8 hours ago, NoMan said:

always on the lookout for new great stories to read. If you can go on and list more, and you have the time, please do.

 

I guess for me it's all about Miller's DD and Batman stuff but everybody knows about that. Ditto with Moore's Swampy. 

I've just read Bernie W's original Swamp Thing run with Lein Wein and it's great (first 10 issues). I've already posted over in Copper how great Moon Knight is from 23 - 33 or so.

One of the problems with recommending books with "great" story/art is that art is very subjective. Unusual art can hurt or ruin a great story for some people.

Not everybody likes Sienkiewicz, but those who do should check out New Mutants 18-31. Gaiman's Sandman is an easy recommendation, but there are a variety of artists and styles present in that series.

The Captain Britain run by Moore and Davis is great and often overlooked, at least compared to Moore's other work.

If you haven't read any of Grant Morrison's work, what are you waiting for? Start with Animal Man.

 

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