walclark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Lighter colored covers seem to show the effect the most. Even so, I think the ban on eating Fig Newtons while slabbing the comics (or whatever they're doing) is paying off in less Newton rings. pmpknface and comicjack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walclark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) In short, earlier submissions had very easily seen ring effects. The most recent batch still has them, but you have to actively look for them and they are not as distracting as those from earlier this year. Edited September 11, 2018 by walclark changed image due to double post Badger and pmpknface 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, walclark said: There are about a dozen parallel scratches running horizontally across the logo area So, I'll admit I've never cracked a slab so don't have a great grasp on the inner construction and exactly how its all pieced together. These scratches on the interior...any clue how or why that's happening? I know the books don't move around much in the slab but is it possible the scratched inner surface of the holders is providing a rough surface that could potentially damage the cover as it rubs up against it? Either by snagging it or creating indentations if the piece of plastic pressing up against the cover isn't totally smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lady Luck Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 5 hours ago, szavisca said: So, I'll admit I've never cracked a slab so don't have a great grasp on the inner construction and exactly how its all pieced together. These scratches on the interior...any clue how or why that's happening? I know the books don't move around much in the slab but is it possible the scratched inner surface of the holders is providing a rough surface that could potentially damage the cover as it rubs up against it? Either by snagging it or creating indentations if the piece of plastic pressing up against the cover isn't totally smooth. I would think (hope) that the scratches are not on the inside of the inner well - and thus never come in contact with the comic itself, but I don't know for sure. Regardless, I'm as concerned about scratches as I am about Newton Rings. Sqeegs, were there scratches on your recent reholders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walclark Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 @skypinkblu Sharon, didn’t you have some decent pictures of the scratches on the inside of the slabs? I can’t get a good shot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, walclark said: @skypinkblu Sharon, didn’t you have some decent pictures of the scratches on the inside of the slabs? I can’t get a good shot of them. I don't know if I do, Walter, but I will look. To me, the scratches looked like there were from some kind of polishing implement, not something from an inner well. I don't know how hard plastic is polished, but from my experience with glass, it might be some kind of polishing wheel. They don't bother me nearly as much as the rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 @walclarkThis is from a box I got yesterday, it's hard to get the pictures, I can only do it with my phone. Sorry they are not better. I tried to get a section where you can see where the scratches extend past the comic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I'm going through 2 boxes that I got yesterday. A lot of the books are better, so far only 12 out of 35 books have rings, most are as Walter said "Mitigated" but I just found this one. There are 3 others that are pretty bad. On the others, the rings are on colors not the faces, but I have to wait till it stops raining and look in sunlight. There shouldn't be an "only" I know that, but I want to give people credit for improving, last time 41 out of 50 books had rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 41 minutes ago, skypinkblu said: I'm going through 2 boxes that I got yesterday. A lot of the books are better, so far only 12 out of 35 books have rings, most are as Walter said "Mitigated" but I just found this one. There are 3 others that are pretty bad. On the others, the rings are on colors not the faces, but I have to wait till it stops raining and look in sunlight. There shouldn't be an "only" I know that, but I want to give people credit for improving, last time 41 out of 50 books had rings. Yikes! That one looks as bad as the earlier ones before they recently tweaked the system. Pain in the neck to do so, but you should probably send it back. Since they seem to have a fix for the problem, you wonder how that one got through QC. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr. Lady Luck said: I would think (hope) that the scratches are not on the inside of the inner well - and thus never come in contact with the comic itself, but I don't know for sure. Regardless, I'm as concerned about scratches as I am about Newton Rings. Sqeegs, were there scratches on your recent reholders? I think that there are a few now that I've looked for them. Check the area above Sweethearts in this scan. Seem to be a number of them. I wish they weren't there, but I'm not particularly distracted by them (or I wasn't until I realized they were there!), so I don't consider this a big issue. My guess is that they are on the inside of the slab, so I don't think they pose a hazard to the book. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 So are they sanding the inner surface to reduce contact for Newton rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, buttock said: So are they sanding the inner surface to reduce contact for Newton rings? That might be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 Well, I just discovered something odd. If you pop over to the romance thread you can see a book that seems largely NR-free in hand and when photographed but that appears in a scan to have significant NRs. Don't know what to make of it .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Who you gonna believe - the scanner or your lying eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dr. Love said: Who you gonna believe - the scanner or your lying eyes? I think the problem is that sometimes the "rings" which are not really "rings" look like dirt when you are not looking with a decent light source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lady Luck Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, buttock said: So are they sanding the inner surface to reduce contact for Newton rings? The same thought occurred to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Dr. Love said: Who you gonna believe - the scanner or your lying eyes? Well, since apparently my vision ain't too good, I guess I better stick with the scans .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Lady Luck said: 2 hours ago, buttock said: So are they sanding the inner surface to reduce contact for Newton rings? The same thought occurred to me Honestly, I'm not too worried about the scratches. It would certainly be better if they weren't there, but they don't seem to detract much from the appearance of the slabbed book. But, then, I've not been particularly bothered buying slabs that have surface scuffs from rattling around in dealers' boxes. Kind of OT, but I recently bought a book that had both a CLink label and a dealer's label on the back of the slab. First time I've encountered two labels on the same book. I used to carefully peel off the CLink labels -- needed a PDI pad to manage it. Lately, though, I just leave them on. I know that @Cat-Man_America will consider this another indication of my low standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Sqeggs said: Well, I just discovered something odd. If you pop over to the romance thread you can see a book that seems largely NR-free in hand and when photographed but that appears in a scan to have significant NRs. Don't know what to make of it .... Most romances end up like that. AJD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
path4play Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) In fairness to CGC, the second attempt looks much better: Edited October 2, 2018 by path4play walclark, Mr. Lady Luck and skypinkblu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...