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30 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

what's sad about Lassie, Jane? Have you fogotten the kid in the well?

So many wells...

And barn fires. And bears wandering into town. And elephants escaping from the circus. And shady characters with canvas bags with $$ printed on them.

I ask you, Barbara, what isn't sad about Lassie? :frown:

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Plus, look at the cover -350330082_Lassie49(April-June1960)9d.thumb.jpg.c7409c947846f38fe0557d6b8eaaf700.jpg.0caec980741b5a234668d10a6b5c8ae4.jpg

Timmy's pooping himself at the thought of this 'helpless' doe.

Lassie, meanwhile, thinks the whole thing is hilarious. They were never really on the same page, Timmy & Lassie. This is the essential tragedy of the series.

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"I know you'll always protect me Lassie, I know it - always!"

"I will Timmy, yes. Of course I will. Sorry, I meant 'arf!'"

"Even from that angry bull heading this way?"

"Angry what? Bull did you say? F:censored: that, I'm outta here!"

"Lassie!"

 

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I picked up some nice clean pence copies of Walt Disney's Comics and Stories this week. Here they are, duly ticked off in the wants list book:

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There were five books in the lot, four pence and one cents (#243). They correlated perfectly with my known copy list, strengthening the likelihood that it is accurate:

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They're nice looking books I think :)

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This doesn't happen often - a new Dell find - The Rifleman #8:

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It completes the pence set...

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...and brings us up to 217 confirmed books.

 

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Hello,

I'm doing some indexing at the Grand Comics Database and am finding some partially indexed British/Pence variants of the Dell, Four Color (1942 series) circa 1961. Many of the domestic copies have indicia images available, but I have not found any indicias for the British/Pence variants. It would be very useful to have some clear images of the indicia for comparison. Can anyone post some indicias?

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On 1/23/2021 at 3:00 PM, Steven Coates said:

Hello,

I'm doing some indexing at the Grand Comics Database and am finding some partially indexed British/Pence variants of the Dell, Four Color (1942 series) circa 1961. Many of the domestic copies have indicia images available, but I have not found any indicias for the British/Pence variants. It would be very useful to have some clear images of the indicia for comparison. Can anyone post some indicias?

Hi Steven, the indicias will be the same - for Dell, the only differences between the US originals and their UK Price Variant counterparts are the 9d / one shilling cover prices. Or two shillings, for the giant ones :)

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/blogs/entry/4901-dell-comics-uk-price-variants/

 

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Thank you. I really don't expect too much difference in the indicia of the foreign and domestic markets. Most of the variants involve a change to the cover, by which I mean the four pages around the comic. Additions and changes to indicia appearing on the inside front cover would have been easier to produce. I also wonder about possible advertisement differences which could occur on the cover pages.

The GCD applies due diligence, which I agree with, in what and how the data is captured and stored. It is more convincing to have prove-in-hand, by presenting scans of each variant's indicia.

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15 hours ago, Steven Coates said:

Thank you. I really don't expect too much difference in the indicia of the foreign and domestic markets.

No need to expect Stephen - read my threads and you will know exactly what the differences are for each of the seven US publishers who produced UK Price Variants between the cover dates of April 1960 and December 1982.

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Most of the variants involve a change to the cover, by which I mean the four pages around the comic. Additions and changes to indicia appearing on the inside front cover would have been easier to produce. I also wonder about possible advertisement differences which could occur on the cover pages.

Gold Key have some cover advertisement differences on their UKPVs in respect of the 'Fun Catalogs' - details in the Gold Key thread

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The GCD applies due diligence, which I agree with, in what and how the data is captured and stored. It is more convincing to have prove-in-hand, by presenting scans of each variant's indicia.

As I said earlier, the vast majority of UKPV indicias are the same. All Dells are so any GCD indicia images for those will be fairly pointless and unverifiable. Only Marvel have indicia variances in the early years - see my Marvel Indicia journal entry for full details.

https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/blogs/blog/628-john-morlars-pence-palace-of-doom-and-other-comic-miscellany/

 

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12 hours ago, themagicrobot said:

Cover dated September 1964

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From earlier in the thread Robot:

On 3/24/2019 at 12:09 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Hello :)

Sitting way outside the main Dell pence variant date range is this Beatles giant dated Sept-Nov 1964 which I have sitting in my 'investigations' folder along with a few other books:

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From the pictures I've seen online, everything seems identical - interior, indicia, back cover etc.:

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                                                       UK                                                                                                             US

Only the cover price box differs it seems. So is it a genuine price variant? Or is one a reprinting of the other? They're quite pricey, so I will have to wait for an opportunity to pick up a copy of each to make a closer inspection. But on the face of it, it does look like a stand alone 1964 price variant.

Anyone know differently? I won't add it to the list just yet, until it's confirmed

 

I have a copy of the UK version now. Just haven't gotten around to posting about it yet as it's sitting under a ton of encyclopaedias. I'm an expert presser you know... 

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On 2/19/2021 at 9:16 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

From earlier in the thread Robot:

I have a copy of the UK version now. Just haven't gotten around to posting about it yet as it's sitting under a ton of encyclopaedias. I'm an expert presser you know... 

I could go into the pressing business, me:

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I'd likely go out of business soon after of course but nothing ventured.

Funny book this. It looks the part, but I'm going to hold off on any PV assessments until I have a US copy in hand to compare it to - page by page, page / print quality etc. It'll have to be a cheap copy mind, I don't care that much.... :shy:

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....I was listening to some early Beatles albums yesterday morning as it goes. It reminded me of the time when I sang 'Michelle' on the karaoke in Trieste to an audience comprised half of Italians (the Bride) and half from Essex (the Groom).

"Better than Paul McCartney" the Italian DJ declared. Not sure about that.

Never be a best man at a half Italian / half English wedding if you can help it. I made what I thought was a good joke about the mix of one fine, cultured group, steeped in a rich history set against a beautiful landscape, and the Italians. 50% of the crowd thought it was funny. The other didn't. Even on translation. Funny people, the Essex.

Anyway, nothing doing with Dell on the pence front - no new finds. I did spot these two though online, with quite unusual 6d stamps:

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I don't think I've seen those before, but they look Milleresque. 

Well, that's it for this time. 

See you in a year or so I suppose...

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Look at that :cloud9:

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219...

You can't afford to be too fussy about condition when gathering pence copies, but that, if I do say so myself, is an effin cracker :)

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Not a lot to report on the Dell front, apart from this copy which I picked up in replacement of my previous copy which had been attacked, appropriately enough, by a mouse:

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It has its own issues in the same bottom left corner spot in the form of a tear, but no one likes a rat nibble.

Having two copies always invites pence price placement comparisons:

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Automated!

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