JohnH19 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 It’s more expensive than its’ peers because it’s...wait for it...Amazing Spider-Man #1! ‘Nuff said. sfcityduck and I am not Glenda 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 12 hours ago, FineCollector said: I disagree with the majority that #1 automatically makes it a key. Is Atom #1 a key? Atom suffers from being ... the Atom ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgross.com Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 it also didnt really increase much for several years, and then last year when AF15 had a price surge, it helped boost asm1 too. so, its sort of been catching up with several other 60s keys that outpaced it for awhile. not that that exactly answers this question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchonEnergy Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Peter Palmers first Appearance is why it’s so valuable... LOL mustang33guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgross.com Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 also in this case, no apostrophe in "its" (grammar police) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 1:07 PM, WoWitHurts said: I disagree. Define secondary. the tier right after the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusterMark Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 7:26 PM, www.alexgross.com said: also in this case, no apostrophe in "its" (grammar police) Umm, not quite. When the word is used instead of "it is", then it is written as " it's " Unca Ben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 8:26 PM, www.alexgross.com said: also in this case, no apostrophe in "its" (grammar police) 3 hours ago, MusterMark said: Umm, not quite. When the word is used instead of "it is", then it is written as " it's " I think both work but its is more correct in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgross.com Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, MusterMark said: Umm, not quite. When the word is used instead of "it is", then it is written as " it's " yes. but it is not used as "it is" here. it is being used as possessive. as in "his" "hers" and "its" peers. thanks. (TALKING ABOUT THE TITLE OF THIS POST) Edited December 4, 2018 by www.alexgross.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusterMark Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, www.alexgross.com said: 11 hours ago, MusterMark said: Umm, not quite. When the word is used instead of "it is", then it is written as " it's " yes. but it is not used as "it is" here. it is being used as possessive. as in "his" "hers" and "its" peers. thanks. (TALKING ABOUT THE TITLE OF THIS POST) Ah sorry about that. Since your comment about "its" immediately followed the comment by ArchonEnergy ("Peter Palmers first Appearance is why it’s so valuable... LOL"), I thought you were speaking about that comment from ArchonEnergy. alexgross.com and Unca Ben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, MusterMark said: Ah sorry about that. Since your comment about "its" immediately followed the comment by ArchonEnergy ("Peter Palmers first Appearance is why it’s so valuable... LOL"), I thought you were speaking about that comment from ArchonEnergy. I did, too. I was confused. 🤪 Unca Ben and MusterMark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightsofold Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Correct me if I’m wrong, but surprisingly, ASM#1 was valued more than AF15 for a period of time. The Af15 and Asm1 situation reminds me of The Wonder Woman keys: All Star #8 -her first appearance. Worth the most. Sensation Comics #1 her second appearance and first cover appearance. Considered the scarcest of the three and possibly undervalued. Wonder Woman #1 Her 10th appearance, first solo book, it’s value situationally competes with Sensation #1. The debut titles Amazing Spider-Man, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and even Iron Man just command appeal! I always thought the 1968 solo starts of Captain America, Doctor Strange, and Hulk would be valued more (and just feel/look cooler) if they were proper #1s. Edited December 5, 2018 by Knightsofold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am not Glenda Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) On 8/17/2018 at 7:05 PM, Ecranu said: Don't forget Jameson It's a settle key, with AF15 being so pricey. If your an ASM collectors you don't settle for #1 you want both AF 15 & #1, no bones about it its a big key regardless of AF 15. Edited December 6, 2018 by Frank Mozz DST and piper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 What peers? I don't think it has any, explaining why it is so expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECollector Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 12/5/2018 at 9:12 AM, Knightsofold said: Correct me if I’m wrong, but surprisingly, ASM#1 was valued more than AF15 for a period of time. This would be interesting if it was accurate, but I really doubt it. Others here can definitely confirm it or not, but I am pretty sure than AF15 has "always" been the most valuable SA book, along with FF1 and Showcase 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillax23 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 ASM1 is a great book and while AF15 will always be THE KEY spidey book ASM1 is certainly next in line and a top 10 Marvel Silver Age book. What I wonder is whether/how much more ASM1 would be worth if it contained the First Spider-Man - i.e., I think if Spidey appeared in ASM1 first (and AF15 did not exist) then ASM1 would be more expensive than AF15 currently is - or to put it another way, I wonder how much more AF15 would be worth if it was also the start of Spider-Man's flagship title ....... obviously we will never know what the delta would be, but I think it would not be insignificant. I am not Glenda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH19 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I’m sure that ASM 1 would be even more expensive than AF 15 is today if it featured Spidey’s debut. There would be added lustre to having his introduction in his own title. The same would hold true for quite a few super heroes who debuted in other titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosconi Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 9:55 AM, ArchonEnergy said: Peter Palmers first Appearance is why it’s so valuable... LOL Forget about Peter Palmer and Jameson, it's the first FF crossover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 4:53 AM, s14roller said: Now, before we start, let me clarify by 'it's peers". As we all know, ASM1 isn't the first appearance of Spidey, or really the first appearance of anything other than his first series. However, I was thinking this morning about how the book is similar to say, Iron Man #1, etc., in that it may have a origin retold or something, but other than kicking off the series and being a "#1", there's not really something that would classify it as a major key per se. However, the value says otherwise. Any thoughts? ASM 1 is not similar to Iron Man 1 because Iron Man 1 took six years to appear after Tales of Suspense 39. Virtually every other key hero who appeared in another title before getting their own title was in many issues before the self-titled series. ASM 1 is a rare exception in that it's only his second appearance after his first in another title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am not Glenda Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Chillax23 said: ASM1 is a great book and while AF15 will always be THE KEY spidey book ASM1 is certainly next in line and a top 10 Marvel Silver Age book. What I wonder is whether/how much more ASM1 would be worth if it contained the First Spider-Man - i.e., I think if Spidey appeared in ASM1 first (and AF15 did not exist) then ASM1 would be more expensive than AF15 currently is - or to put it another way, I wonder how much more AF15 would be worth if it was also the start of Spider-Man's flagship title ....... obviously we will never know what the delta would be, but I think it would not be insignificant. Not sure I agree that if AF 15 didn't exist the value of ASM #1 would be even higher than AF #15, It would be right where AF15 is, why wouldn't it be? Now if you assume ASM #1 was SM intro & featured the actual #1 cover it might be even less because while ASM #1 is a top-tier key it has always suffered from a so-so cover and IMHO AF15 has one of the most iconic badass covers of any era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...