Chillax23 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 I was havin this argument recently about who the three most important Marvel and DC Villains were (will allow Gold and Bronze Age villains as well) - here is what I came up with - would be interested to here other thoughts Marvel (in order): (1) Dr Doom, (2) Magneto and (3) Thanos DC (in order): (1) Joker, (2) Darkseid and (3) Luthor I know there will be at least one person arguing for Green Goblin and DCs #3 was a tough choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Thanos isn't even in my top twenty Marvel villains ... sorry ... FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Chillax23 said: I was havin this argument recently about who the three most important Marvel and DC Villains were (will allow Gold and Bronze Age villains as well) - here is what I came up with - would be interested to here other thoughts Marvel (in order): (1) Dr Doom, (2) Magneto and (3) Thanos DC (in order): (1) Joker, (2) Darkseid and (3) Luthor I know there will be at least one person arguing for Green Goblin and DCs #3 was a tough choice The Golden, Silver, and Bronze Ages were different in so many ways, as were the generations who read and collected comics during these great comic book eras. So it's not a good idea to compare villains from different ages. That said, each of the villains you mention have, since their inception, gone through periods where they weren't the most popular or "hottest" bad guys. They have however, risen in popularity depending on a storyline (see The Killing Joke or A Death in the Family for Batman), and/or in cases where a villain appears in a comic book film (remember how popular what's his name was in Iron Man 2?). Let me suggest that you reframe the argument with your friends by focusing on the greatest villain for each comic book age: Joker for the Golden Age Dr. Doom for the Silver Age Darkside for the Bronze Age Keep in mind that it's also really not fair to compare Doom, Darkside, and the Joker to one another because while we do know how incredible they are during the eras they were created in, we'll never know how the first two villains (Doom and Darkside), would have fared during the ages that preceded their comic book existence. As for the current age of comic books, will defer to the current generation and who they think are the best villains in Modern or Post-modern comics. Keys_Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, 1950's war comics said: Thanos isn't even in my top twenty Marvel villains ... sorry ... Can you post your list, please? I need some confetti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, bronze johnny said: The Golden, Silver, and Bronze Ages were different in so many ways, as were the generations who read and collected comics during these great comic book eras. So it's not a good idea to compare villains from different ages. He's only talking about when they were created. That said, I'm not sure why this thread is in the SA forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillax23 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, bronze johnny said: The Golden, Silver, and Bronze Ages were different in so many ways, as were the generations who read and collected comics during these great comic book eras. So it's not a good idea to compare villains from different ages. That said, each of the villains you mention have, since their inception, gone through periods where they weren't the most popular or "hottest" bad guys. They have however, risen in popularity depending on a storyline (see The Killing Joke or A Death in the Family for Batman), and/or in cases where a villain appears in a comic book film (remember how popular what's his name was in Iron Man 2?). Let me suggest that you reframe the argument with your friends by focusing on the greatest villain for each comic book age: Joker for the Golden Age Dr. Doom for the Silver Age Darkside for the Bronze Age Keep in mind that it's also really not fair to compare Doom, Darkside, and the Joker to one another because while we do know how incredible they are during the eras they were created in, we'll never know how the first two villains (Doom and Darkside), would have fared during the ages that preceded their comic book existence. As for the current age of comic books, will defer to the current generation and who they think are the best villains in Modern or Post-modern comics. Points taken all around - and I agree hard to compare across ages, but a villain like the Joker or Doom or Magneto have stood the test of time. I could care less what is popular in movies I am talking for the hobby as a whole and villains like this are iconic IMO - as are Darkseid and Thanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillax23 Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lazyboy said: He's only talking about when they were created. That said, I'm not sure why this thread is in the SA forum. Ya maybe not the best place for it - I just figured the Silver forum is quite active and i Spend most my time here reading. But perhaps it is more a comics general question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Lazyboy said: He's only talking about when they were created. That said, I'm not sure why this thread is in the SA forum. Agree with you that this isn't the best place for this thread but it's not clear whether he's referring to when they were created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze johnny Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Chillax23 said: Points taken all around - and I agree hard to compare across ages, but a villain like the Joker or Doom or Magneto have stood the test of time. I could care less what is popular in movies I am talking for the hobby as a whole and villains like this are iconic IMO - as are Darkseid and Thanos I'm with you on the role movies have on comic book characters. Also agree with you on these characters standing the test of time. Always fun to have debates about these topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot6 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Reggie Mantle, Cheryl Blossom, Reginald Van Dough Jr., and the Ghostly Trio....obviously steveinthecity and SuperGrover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1. The Mindworm 2. The Grizzly 3. The Rocket Racer What! They really important. And The Mindworm had a really big head. Patriot6 and MyThreeSons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Hard lists to pick nits with, but I think I would have to drop Thanos for Loki (the other two are Marvel locks) and I think Luthor is solid, not iffy. I could see arguments for any ordering of the DC three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRawn Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Most important I think is so subjective, So I am going as just some evil arse arch enemy 1) Doom, Green Goblin, Red Skull 2) Joker, Luther, Braniac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Long term the Joker is the most significant comic book villain of any company, though the nadir of his importance was during the Silver Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said: 1. The Mindworm 2. The Grizzly 3. The Rocket Racer 1. Paste Pot Pete (he had paste) 2. Baldini of The Exiles (he’d hit you with his scarf) 3. El Toro (his special hat had little horns on it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 8 hours ago, KirbyJack said: 1. Paste Pot Pete (he had paste) 2. Baldini of The Exiles (he’d hit you with his scarf) 3. El Toro (his special hat had little horns on it) I was sure I'd nailed it, but I fear you have usurped me KJ KirbyJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr bla bla Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 11:45 AM, Get Marwood & I said: I was sure I'd nailed it, but I fear you have usurped me KJ Dargsaihjd ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namisgr Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 What, no hate for Galactus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonmorris1000000 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 On 9/8/2018 at 10:23 AM, Chillax23 said: I was havin this argument recently about who the three most important Marvel and DC Villains were (will allow Gold and Bronze Age villains as well) - here is what I came up with - would be interested to here other thoughts Marvel (in order): (1) Dr Doom, (2) Magneto and (3) Thanos DC (in order): (1) Joker, (2) Darkseid and (3) Luthor I know there will be at least one person arguing for Green Goblin and DCs #3 was a tough choice You seem to have forgotten Asbestos Man. You might want to reorder your Marvels. KirbyJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
