FineCollector Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, valiantman said: Good info for adjusting expectations: sellcomics.com I'm a glass half-empty guy, and even I found that depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 hours ago, mysterio said: It’s possible that this is the Friday thread. No, I don't think so. It would've been 'truley disattisfied' if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounty_coder Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Lhel1271 said: I just wanted to say that- as a first-time user of this service- I am truly dissatisfied. When I first acquired my comic books as a little boy, I hardly looked at them, and they were well stored in a sturdy comic box, with acid-free backers and bags, in a climate-controlled safe and stress-free environment. When I got my comics back from my first grading, I was shocked to see that they had been given 8.0 grades. There had been nothing done to warrant such a mark. I am sorry that I had to be a paid member to get express servicing done but it will be the last time I do so. Lanny Hey buddy, there is a good chance that many of your comics have Non Color Breaking Bends/dents/Creases. I find these are the things that usually throw most people off when submitting to CGC. They are the "invisible" defects that you can't see unless angling your books perpendicular to a bright light source. These types of defects can take what seem to be a NM 9.4 book down to VF 8.0 in no time. Mystafo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Lhel1271 said: I just wanted to say that- as a first-time user of this service- I am truly dissatisfied. When I first acquired my comic books as a little boy, I hardly looked at them, and they were well stored in a sturdy comic box, with acid-free backers and bags, in a climate-controlled safe and stress-free environment. When I got my comics back from my first grading, I was shocked to see that they had been given 8.0 grades. There had been nothing done to warrant such a mark. I am sorry that I had to be a paid member to get express servicing done but it will be the last time I do so. Lanny Either: A-CGC is completely incompetent and none of the collectors with an infinite amount of knowledge have noticed this, or B-your grading skills are lacking theCapraAegagrus and lizards2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post F For Fake Posted October 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 5, 2018 I'd wager that the vast majority of us were surprised/disappointed on our first sub. I know I was. And what I found out was: I wasn't very good at grading. 20 years (or so) of slabbing later, and I'm now moderately ok at grading! There's no question that there are issues with consistency in CGC's grading over the years (tight periods vs loose periods, etc) and no one is perfect, but chances are that your 8.0's truly are 8.0's. If you decide to stick around, you'll learn a lot and will have a lot of fun. Mystafo, Von Cichlid, Get Marwood & I and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, F For Fake said: I'd wager that the vast majority of us were surprised/disappointed on our first sub. I know I was. And what I found out was: I wasn't very good at grading. 20 years (or so) of slabbing later, and I'm now moderately ok at grading! There's no question that there are issues with consistency in CGC's grading over the years (tight periods vs loose periods, etc) and no one is perfect, but chances are that your 8.0's truly are 8.0's. If you decide to stick around, you'll learn a lot and will have a lot of fun. Yes merely post pics of books with spinal close ups and we can explain for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, kav said: Either: A-CGC is completely incompetent and none of the collectors with an infinite amount of knowledge have noticed this, or B-your grading skills are lacking C-shoulda used PGX. Minimum 9.6s across the board then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domo Arigato Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Lhel1271 said: I just wanted to say that- as a first-time user of this service- I am truly dissatisfied. When I first acquired my comic books as a little boy, I hardly looked at them, and they were well stored in a sturdy comic box, with acid-free backers and bags, in a climate-controlled safe and stress-free environment. When I got my comics back from my first grading, I was shocked to see that they had been given 8.0 grades. There had been nothing done to warrant such a mark. I am sorry that I had to be a paid member to get express servicing done but it will be the last time I do so. Lanny s-dali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, FineCollector said: 3 hours ago, valiantman said: Good info for adjusting expectations: sellcomics.com I'm a glass half-empty guy, and even I found that depressing. There's no way the random "I have some comic books here" person has a half-full/half-empty 50/50 chance of having a gem. They don't have squat and they need to know it. kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Lhel1271 said: as a little boy, I hardly looked at them, and they were well stored in a sturdy comic box, with acid-free backers and bags, in a climate-controlled safe A little boy with a climate-controlled safe. Sounds legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, bounty_coder said: Hey buddy, there is a good chance that many of your comics have Non Color Breaking Bends/dents/Creases. I find these are the things that usually throw most people off when submitting to CGC. They are the "invisible" defects that you can't see unless angling your books perpendicular to a bright light source. These types of defects can take what seem to be a NM 9.4 book down to VF 8.0 in no time. There's a good chance they have visible color breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 another drive-by shouting? Cozmo-One, exitmusicblue and ADAMANTIUM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, kav said: another drive-by shouting? I thought the same thing... exitmusicblue and kav 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitmusicblue Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hahahahahha NWO FTW !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, kav said: 7 hours ago, Lhel1271 said: I just wanted to say that- as a first-time user of this service- I am truly dissatisfied. When I first acquired my comic books as a little boy, I hardly looked at them, and they were well stored in a sturdy comic box, with acid-free backers and bags, in a climate-controlled safe and stress-free environment. When I got my comics back from my first grading, I was shocked to see that they had been given 8.0 grades. There had been nothing done to warrant such a mark. I am sorry that I had to be a paid member to get express servicing done but it will be the last time I do so. Lanny Either: A-CGC is completely incompetent and none of the collectors with an infinite amount of knowledge have noticed this, or B-your grading skills are lacking If I have to choose between professionals who have graded literally a million comics (2 million?) comics which would be at least $20M in revenue, or an internet angry guy who has looked at his comics a handful of times in 20-30+ years and OWNS the comics in question, I usually trust the second guy when it comes to my comic grading. *And yes, I get that CGC isn't perfect. Nor is any grader. Edited October 5, 2018 by revat kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, revat said: If I have to choose between professionals who have graded literally a million comics (2 million?) comics which would be at least $20M in revenue, or an internet angry guy who has looked at his comics a handful of times in 20-30+ years and OWNS the comics in question, I usually trust the second guy when it comes to my comic grading. *And yes, I get that CGC isn't perfect. Nor is any grader. Its telling that he didnt post pics. "Just believe me". If I had 9.6s that got 8.0s I'd post pics like crazy!!! Jayman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, kav said: Its telling that he didnt post pics. "Just believe me". If I had 9.6s that got 8.0s I'd post pics like crazy!!! Who is this Crazy, and where are these pics he's posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Get Marwood & I Live! said: Who is this Crazy, and where are these pics he's posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, kav said: 6 minutes ago, revat said: If I have to choose between professionals who have graded literally a million comics (2 million?) comics which would be at least $20M in revenue, or an internet angry guy who has looked at his comics a handful of times in 20-30+ years and OWNS the comics in question, I usually trust the second guy when it comes to my comic grading. *And yes, I get that CGC isn't perfect. Nor is any grader. Its telling that he didnt post pics. "Just believe me". If I had 9.6s that got 8.0s I'd post pics like crazy!!! At least 4,000,000 graded by CGC. http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/totals/ I bet his books don't look this good: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, valiantman said: I bet his books don't look this good: I guarantee there are spine tix and some corner creasing. Edited October 5, 2018 by kav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
