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Marvel Developing Winter Soldier-Falcon Limited Series for Disney’s Streaming Service
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1 minute ago, @therealsilvermane said:

Torres doesn't call Sam's gear Stark tech? That's what I remember I could be remembering that wrong I don't have time to check it right now...

Nope. It's ANG (military) tech. Maybe, in the MCU, the EXO-7 was developed by Stark Industries when they had military contracts. That's not mentioned though, and it's not a Tony Stark product.

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12 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said:

Torres doesn't call Sam's gear Stark tech?

He refers to Redwing as Stark-level tech, which implies that it's as technologically advanced as something Stark would make but that it isn't something he actually made.

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You ever read a theory online and say this is ridiculous and then say... waitaminute...  ?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/avengers-endgame-theory-suggests-falcon-173700328.html

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Avengers: Endgame appeared to set up Sam Wilson, AKA Falcon, taking on the Captain America mantle after Steve Rogers handed him the shield.

 

However, Marvel never likes to do things the simple way and The Falcon and the Winter Soldier surprised fans by having him give up the shield, donating it to the Smithsonian Institution in the very first scenes. But it didn't stay there long either.

 

By the end of episode one, John Walker had been unveiled to the world as the new Captain America. We saw the new Cap clash with Wilson and Bucky Barnes in episode two, with the duo refusing to work with him to uncover who's dealing in Super Soldier serum.

 

Barnes certainly holds a grudge against Wilson for refusing the shield, resulting in it landing in Walker's hands. When he was asked by James Rhodes why he gave it up, Wilson said it "feels like it belongs to someone else." We have a feeling he didn't mean that "someone else" to be a total stranger, mind.

 

A new Marvel fan theory though claims that the "someone else" could well be none other than Sam Wilson himself. Confused? Let us explain.

 

If Wilson's reasoning for giving up the shield sounded familiar, it's because he said the shield felt like "someone else's" when he first got his hands on it.

 

In case you need reminding, the final moments of Endgame saw Cap choose Wilson as his successor. After he returned from living a life with Peggy Carter in an alternate timeline, Cap handed his friend the shield and asked him how it felt.

 

"Like it's someone else's," Wilson replied, leading Cap to say: "It isn't."

 

The straightforward reading of this exchange is that Cap's response is just confirming his decision that Wilson will be the new Captain America and, therefore, the shield is now his and not someone else's.

 

A new theory from Reddit user smacksaw argues that an alternate reading of the scene is that Cap's response was because the shield really wasn't "someone else's" – it originally belonged to Wilson in an alternate timeline.

 

We know that when Cap decided to stay in the past, he was living in an alternate timeline, rather than just hiding in plain sight in the main MCU timeline. He then crossed back over to the main timeline for the shield handover.

 

We also know that he'd have had to find a new shield somewhere as Thanos broke his and he didn't go back in time with a repaired shield. So it stands to reason that the shield he handed to Wilson was from this alternate timeline he'd been staying in.

 

The theory goes that this shield didn't actually belong to that timeline's Steve Rogers, but actually that timeline's Sam Wilson. It's not an outlandish call since in the comics, Wilson has donned the Captain America mantle after Rogers retired.

 

Maybe that timeline's Rogers decided to call it a day (or never take on the mantle) when he saw a clone of his take his girl. Or maybe when our Cap told him all the coming his way with HYDRA and whatnot, he just decided to live the quiet, simple life.

 

It also adds up since the shield that Cap gives Wilson is different to his original shield, so could well have come from a different time. Perhaps that timeline's Tony Stark just decided to go with a (slightly) different design.

 

Of course, the simplest explanation is usually the correct one and, most likely, the exchange between Cap and Falcon is meant to be taken on face value.

Marvel does have a penchant for retcons and flipping your expectations on previous movies, so with the multiverse eventually coming to the MCU, you can never really rule anything out though.

 

And if we've ruined a surprise future twist, sorry about that.

 

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5 hours ago, Buzzetta said:

You ever read a theory online and say this is ridiculous and then say... waitaminute...  ?

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/avengers-endgame-theory-suggests-falcon-173700328.html

 

Thanks for sharing this.

But the more it goes into 'Someone else' to force an alternate timeline mind-blowing realization, the less excited it becomes. What it may be missing is the deeper backstory.

What if Steve Rogers in going into that alternate timeline happens across a dying Sam Wilson 'Cap' who in recognizing a friend hands him the shield. Maybe even tells him, "Find someone worthy!" Makes it that much more emotional.

The problem with pulling the shield completely out of another timeline is Steve Rogers would then be treading into anti-hero territory. Because wouldn't he have had to make the decision of HIS TIMELINE over THEIR TIMELINE needed the shield more?

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4 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

For those worried about those Star Wars or 'Snyderbros' bothering studios or actors about a given production I present to you Wyatt Russell's Instagram page.

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Go fans! :facepalm:

This is actually kinda cute and proof that Wyatt Russell is doing his job to be the most hated man in the MCU. It also utterly pales in comparison to the ugliness and disgust of the racist mysoginist trolls who attacked Leslie Jones and Kelly Marie Tran and tried (key word "tried") to sink Captain Marvel's ship at Rotten Tomatoes before her ship left port.

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Just now, @therealsilvermane said:

This is actually kinda cute and proof that Wyatt Russell is doing his job to be the most hated man in the MCU. It also utterly pales in comparison to the ugliness and disgust of the racist mysoginist trolls who attacked Leslie Jones and Kelly Marie Tran and tried (key word "tried") to sink Captain Marvel's ship at Rotten Tomatoes before her ship left port.

This logic is leaking all over the floor.

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A summary of Episode 1 has been posted to the Fandom site.

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In 2024, Sam Wilson began to do contract work for the United States Air Force and was given a new EXO-7 Falcon suit, along with a new Redwing drone. Falcon deployed Redwing during his fight with the terrorist organization LAF and to help rescue Vassant, during which one of the LAF members shot Redwing. While attempting to repair Redwing in Tunisia, Joaquín Torres attempted to help Wilson, only for Wilson to notify Torres that he did not want anyone else touching the drone since it always ended up glitchy after Air Force technicians handled it.

The U.S. Air Force rearms a superhero - to include a high-end drone to replace his original Redwing (officially designated as Stark Drone MK82 922 V 80Z V2 Prototype Unit V6 created by Stark Industries). And we are supposed to believe because of the Sokovia Accords he would still be seen as a rogue agent and not taken care of by either the Federal Government nor by Pepper Potts?

There's suspending disbelief and then there is ignoring facts. That bank scene feels even more pity-forced.

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1 minute ago, @therealsilvermane said:

Yeah yeah yeah...

I still appreciate reading your selective views so it reminds me how some will ignore anything to convince themselves of a belief.

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53 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

This logic is leaking all over the floor.

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The above image is trolls after they saw...

A. Captain Marvel break a billion at the box office.

B. Kathleen Kennedy keep her job as Star Wars head.

C. Zack Snyder denounce Geeks n Gamers.

D. All of the above.

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6 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said:

The above image is trolls after they saw...

A. Captain Marvel break a billion at the box office.

B. Kathleen Kennedy keep her job as Star Wars head.

C. Zack Snyder denounce Geeks n Gamers.

D. All of the above.

C(2). MCU super-fanatics that selectively attack actors and other studios because they're not 'MY TASTE' being exposed

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10 Things You Might Not Have Known About Marvel's Madripoor

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A HEROIC MEETING

Captain America took to this island for a short amount of time to fight enemy forces. It was in this location that he met Wolverine for the first time. The two teamed up with one another, starting a decades-long brotherhood that is waged in war.

 

ITS MUTANT RELATIONS

The island has a long history with mutants and the X-Men, which we will touch upon later. It has a number of rulers who have held completely different thoughts about mutantkind (one of which happened to be the villain Viper).

 

However, Logan has been heavily linked to the island, having been its protector for quite some time. This is why he and Captain America once met; Wolverine also has had a longtime rivalry with the Hand in this area, who have a strong fascination with Madripoor.

 

AN ALIEN INVASION

The alien ruler and empire builder, Khan decided to launch an attack on Earth to add it to his growing collection of conquered societies. However, he did not expect to face such a protective show of force from the X-Men.

 

The invasion first started on Madripoor and this became a hub of alien activity. Khan was eventually defeated, although not before he tried to take Storm as his wife. Madripoor was brought back to some kind of normality after these events.

 

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