Knightsofold 2,472 posts Posted November 17, 2018 From the present to the distant future if someone looks up the what/where/when of the “comic book”, the prevailing information will be a Action 1 cover to represent the origin of the medium and the super hero and Captain America 1 cover will represent the time, place, and the greatest comic creator in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatCaesarsGhost 1,097 posts Posted November 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Knightsofold said: From the present to the distant future if someone looks up the what/where/when of the “comic book”, the prevailing information will be a Action 1 cover to represent the origin of the medium and the super hero and Captain America 1 cover will represent the time, place, and the greatest comic creator in history. I could see that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chillax23 1,349 posts Posted November 18, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 10:39 PM, GreatCaesarsGhost said: Which surprises me. I know Sup 1 is the scarcest of the three, but its mostly reprints. Before the hate mail comes in, please know I’m the insufficiently_thoughtful_person who sold his 5 years ago for what they were then going for: not much. I agree - to be honest I don’t see the appeal in Superman 1 (maybe someone can convince me). I preface this with I am a huge Superman fan - but I would rather have an Action 23 than Superman 1 (ignoring the price difference of course - factoring in the price difference I would take the Superman 1 and sell it to buy a Batman 1 and Action 23) - I know I am in the minority/alone in this view but I don’t care But back to the topic at hand - both such amazing books and congrats on the purchase of your Batman 1 - that had to be a tough choice!!!! 2 Tsp99 and GreatCaesarsGhost reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago Boy 2,871 posts Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Chillax23 said: I agree - to be honest I don’t see the appeal in Superman 1 (maybe someone can convince me). I preface this with I am a huge Superman fan - but I would rather have an Action 23 than Superman 1 (ignoring the price difference of course - factoring in the price difference I would take the Superman 1 and sell it to buy a Batman 1 and Action 23) - I know I am in the minority/alone in this view but I don’t care But back to the topic at hand - both such amazing books and congrats on the purchase of your Batman 1 - that had to be a tough choice!!!! I confused myself a huge Supes fan as well and hdve never had any interest in Supes 1. Love the cover and the fact that it’s the first sole title devoted to the character. But to me it’s just a bunch of reprints for the most part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knightsofold 2,472 posts Posted November 19, 2018 Action 1 and superman 1 remind me of Amazing fantasy 15 and spiderman 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago Boy 2,871 posts Posted November 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, Knightsofold said: Action 1 and superman 1 remind me of Amazing fantasy 15 and spiderman 1. Yeah. I’d never b satisfied with a spidey 1 knowing the AF 15 is out there. Same for Tec 27/ Bats 1 scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatCaesarsGhost 1,097 posts Posted November 19, 2018 I don’t disagree except for 2 major DC villains get introduced in Bat 1. No major new characters in Sup 1(all reprints except for 2 page expanded origin), and nothing in spidey 1. Joker! Catwoman! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago Boy 2,871 posts Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: I don’t disagree except for 2 major DC villains get introduced in Bat 1. No major new characters in Sup 1(all reprints except for 2 page expanded origin), and nothing in spidey 1. Joker! Catwoman! Can’t argue with 1st appearances of Joker / Cat. That being said will Bats 1 catch up with Supes 1 $ wise ? I think there are about 100 less in the census ? But seeing that .5 Bats 1 with front cover for Heritage go for so low makes me think it won’t happen anytime soon. I wud think an equivalent Supes 2 wud have sold for double ?? Edited November 19, 2018 by Chicago Boy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chillax23 1,349 posts Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Knightsofold said: Action 1 and superman 1 remind me of Amazing fantasy 15 and spiderman 1. 2 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: I don’t disagree except for 2 major DC villains get introduced in Bat 1. No major new characters in Sup 1(all reprints except for 2 page expanded origin), and nothing in spidey 1. Joker! Catwoman! Except - ASM1 introduces the Daily Bugle (and Peter's whole life/persona as a reporter) and (importantly) starts Marvel's most popular series and the most important Spider-Man Series. Whereas Superman 1 is not Superman's main title - that is obviously Action Comics. Batman 1 introduces 2 major Batman villains and arguably the most popular villain in all of comics (i.e., you don't buy Batman 1 for Batman you buy it for the Joker (and to a lesser extent Catwoman)). So I think Superman 1 is very different from Batman 1 and ASM1. I would assume its price level is due to its scarcity ........ ???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woowoo 4,136 posts Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: I don’t disagree except for 2 major DC villains get introduced in Bat 1. No major new characters in Sup 1(all reprints except for 2 page expanded origin), and nothing in spidey 1. Joker! Catwoman! 1 GreatCaesarsGhost reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woowoo 4,136 posts Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Chicago Boy said: Can’t argue with 1st appearances of Joker / Cat. That being said will Bats 1 catch up with Supes 1 $ wise ? I think there are about 100 less in the census ? But seeing that .5 Bats 1 with front cover for Heritage go for so low makes me think it won’t happen anytime soon. I wud think an equivalent Supes 2 wud have sold for double ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woowoo 4,136 posts Posted November 19, 2018 55 minutes ago, Chillax23 said: Except - ASM1 introduces the Daily Bugle (and Peter's whole life/persona as a reporter) and (importantly) starts Marvel's most popular series and the most important Spider-Man Series. Whereas Superman 1 is not Superman's main title - that is obviously Action Comics. Batman 1 introduces 2 major Batman villains and arguably the most popular villain in all of comics (i.e., you don't buy Batman 1 for Batman you buy it for the Joker (and to a lesser extent Catwoman)). So I think Superman 1 is very different from Batman 1 and ASM1. I would assume its price level is due to its scarcity ........ ???? You forgot the main man 1 Chillax23 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago Boy 2,871 posts Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, woowoo said: Typo. Oops. Supe 1. Thx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedude 6,187 posts Posted November 20, 2018 On 11/16/2018 at 10:00 PM, Gotham Kid said: Let's compare the 2 copies shall we ? Not all 0.5s are created equal. And the Cap1 buyer likely has those missing wraps. yes! the devil is in the details, the Cap #1 .5 copy has much better eye appeal than the Bat #1 .5. it's just a much better "looking" book, if the Batman #1 had the same exact eye appeal as that .5 Cap #1, it would be a $45k - $50k book easy. also, leading up to the Heritage auction, I had guessed the price of the Batman #1 .5 copy would go between $20k - $25k, looks like I was right. If the book didn't have two size-able pieces missing from the front cover and tape along the spine, It would have gone higher. 1 GreatCaesarsGhost reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storypapers 1,189 posts Posted November 20, 2018 Batman a more convincing hero so broader appeal. Simple iconic cover! Capt 1 great but artwork way to busy Hitler & Capt. caught in Time period Batman timeless... Boy wonder was a new idea at the time much better sidekick. Back cover blows Capt 1 away when compared. Joker Catwoman Robin Batman way more successful character by far. ill go with Bat 1 and I just bought one 1 GreatCaesarsGhost reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woowoo 4,136 posts Posted November 20, 2018 37 minutes ago, storypapers said: Batman a more convincing hero so broader appeal. Simple iconic cover! Capt 1 great but artwork way to busy Hitler & Capt. caught in Time period Batman timeless... Boy wonder was a new idea at the time much better sidekick. Back cover blows Capt 1 away when compared. Joker Catwoman Robin Batman way more successful character by far. ill go with Bat 1 and I just bought one It's not true unless we see it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedude 6,187 posts Posted November 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, woowoo said: It's not true unless we see it this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicago Boy 2,871 posts Posted November 20, 2018 45 minutes ago, storypapers said: Batman a more convincing hero so broader appeal. Simple iconic cover! Capt 1 great but artwork way to busy Hitler & Capt. caught in Time period Batman timeless... Boy wonder was a new idea at the time much better sidekick. Back cover blows Capt 1 away when compared. Joker Catwoman Robin Batman way more successful character by far. ill go with Bat 1 and I just bought one Cap not caught in time period Starting out in WW 2 is how he hit his start. Upon thawing now in present so that works 1 Knightsofold reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GreatCaesarsGhost 1,097 posts Posted November 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, woowoo said: It's not true unless we see it 49 minutes ago, storypapers said: Batman a more convincing hero so broader appeal. Simple iconic cover! Capt 1 great but artwork way to busy Hitler & Capt. caught in Time period Batman timeless... Boy wonder was a new idea at the time much better sidekick. Back cover blows Capt 1 away when compared. Joker Catwoman Robin Batman way more successful character by far. ill go with Bat 1 and I just bought one Let’s see the scan! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woowoo 4,136 posts Posted November 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: Let’s see the scan! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
