batman_fan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 13 hours ago, jsilverjanet said: I like this guide Except that it is heavily biased and not reflective of where news sources really are. Azkaban, PopKulture and grebal 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Yep definitely would have been moody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marvelcollector Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 In the span of a few seconds, he proved: he's ignorant he has no class he's a hypocrite (didn't he appear in Iron Man 3?) The trifecta. Pretty hard to do in a few sentences. He's the type even when you agree with him, you don't agree with him. Azkaban 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Man Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Something pot...something kettle. Guess he didn't get paid for this appearance?! Maybe that is why he is so bitter. Larryw7 and MGsimba77 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: I'm just waiting for Colin Kaepernick to say something about Stan so that everyone will get their panties in a bunch I thought he was going to be the next Captain America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 19 hours ago, Darkowl said: Honestly makes me wonder if he just says things like this for attention. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmaz Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I’m not sure Bill Maher’s ignorant words themselves are what bother people... it’s just that we’re hyper sensitive to ANY criticism of Stan at this point. Let’s face it, we all grew up in a world where, for the most part, we were made to be kind of ashamed that we loved comics. And while we shared our love with some of of other comic-loving friends, it was something you otherwise kept to yourself. Slowly in the last 10-15 years its become more mainstream with all the movies and whatnot, maybe even “cool” I guess (even though the culture has just been appropriated by Hollywood) but still, there’s no question we are all still sensitive to the stings of the time when we felt we had to keep it to ourselves as we got older. Stuff like Maher’s comments just brings all that back up, in a bad way. As for Stan himself, and how there were some here in our community who certainly had a lot of negative things to say about him while he was alive and seemed to, perhaps, changed their tune now that he’s passed and being criticized by others? I don’t think it’s hypocritical at all. Honestly, brothers and sisters fight all the time... but they will ALWAYS defend each other when people outside of the family criticize their siblings. That’s what this stuff feels like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Mystafo said: Its so awesome to have a thread where A- not one poster is on my ignore list Where is kav? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FineCollector Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 That commentary felt like he is decades behind the rest of the world, and still thinks it's hip to bully us nerds. Betcha his parents threw out his comics as a kid, and convinced him they were trash literature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Lazyboy said: Where is kav? It came close a couple years back, but the guy's grown on me a little I'm ashamed to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Love Religulous, but he's a dingus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwoogieman Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 10 hours ago, fmaz said: I’m not sure Bill Maher’s ignorant words themselves are what bother people... it’s just that we’re hyper sensitive to ANY criticism of Stan at this point. Let’s face it, we all grew up in a world where, for the most part, we were made to be kind of ashamed that we loved comics. And while we shared our love with some of of other comic-loving friends, it was something you otherwise kept to yourself. Slowly in the last 10-15 years its become more mainstream with all the movies and whatnot, maybe even “cool” I guess (even though the culture has just been appropriated by Hollywood) but still, there’s no question we are all still sensitive to the stings of the time when we felt we had to keep it to ourselves as we got older. Stuff like Maher’s comments just brings all that back up, in a bad way. As for Stan himself, and how there were some here in our community who certainly had a lot of negative things to say about him while he was alive and seemed to, perhaps, changed their tune now that he’s passed and being criticized by others? I don’t think it’s hypocritical at all. Honestly, brothers and sisters fight all the time... but they will ALWAYS defend each other when people outside of the family criticize their siblings. That’s what this stuff feels like. Come on now, I was as nerdy as they made them back in the 70s and even a Marvel-Zombie like me knew Stan as a cheesy-cornball-huckster first and foremost. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that Stan was shill-tastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 19 minutes ago, mrwoogieman said: Come on now, I was as nerdy as they made them back in the 70s and even a Marvel-Zombie like me knew Stan as a cheesy-cornball-huckster first and foremost. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that Stan was shill-tastic. I see a lot of parallels between Stan and Chuck Rozanski. The industry would be very different without either of their historical influences, but neither of them is or ever was great without combining someone else's greatness into the mix. lizards2 and 01TheDude 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Pontoon Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Transplant said: 12 hours ago, NamesJay said: Just take Bill Maher, Michael Moore, and Al Sharpton to the inner cities of Chicago and be done with them all. WTF? Oddly enough, that was the same exact thought I had when I read that post. MGsimba77 and namisgr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmaz Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, mrwoogieman said: Come on now, I was as nerdy as they made them back in the 70s and even a Marvel-Zombie like me knew Stan as a cheesy-cornball-huckster first and foremost. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that Stan was shill-tastic. Oh yeah, what I'm saying is... it's complete fine for those of use who love comics and know the WHOLE Stan (good and bad) to point out BOTH sides of the man... but when people who don't know anything about him like Bill Maher step up and take shots, those feel like cheap shots. That's kind of what I mean in comparing it to the way you can tease or criticize your friends or family members, but you don't like when outsiders do it. That's all. Certainly not painting Stan as anything other the was. Prince Namor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: z I hadn't though of it that way before...interdesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Pontoon said: Oddly enough, that was the same exact thought I had when I read that post. I'm not sure but i think it's a reference to the gun violence in Chicago. I don't know if that was his point but this kind of thing of wishing physical harm or worse on people you don't agree with is poisoning our union. This kind of bitterness is not sustainable! BTW, Maher still has occasional episodes of verbal flatulence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I was going to say, I thought he was making fun of comic book fans mourning over childish comic book creator and not Stan Lee but I could be wrong, I usually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust40 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Hopelessly off the mark here, but I have nothing against Bill Maher generally. Surprised he said this, given how the medium's message from the late 60s onwards was one of idealism, inclusivity and hope for the future, and that was owed in no small part to Mr. Lee. Granted these days that message is often lost, but it's still there. Wonder if Hitch would've piped up and said anything - to be honest I doubt he would've mentioned it. Prince Namor and Mr Sneeze 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
