c_mkv Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I really hope I don't upset anyone and congratulations to all the winners in the auction. Is it just me or do prices seem to be softening a bit on some keys? Specifically silver age marvel keys ie: the FF1's, AF15's and Hulk 1's all seemd to sell for much less than I thought they would. Thoughts? Comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, c_mkv said: I really hope I don't upset anyone and congratulations to all the winners in the auction. Is it just me or do prices seem to be softening a bit on some keys? Specifically silver age marvel keys ie: the FF1's, AF15's and Hulk 1's all seemd to sell for much less than I thought they would. Thoughts? Comments? I just checked and there was 3 Hulk 1s up in one auction so that may have hurt sales a bit. The CGC 6.0 went for $700 under GPA on a $27,000 so it went for 2.5% under GPA so not much of a drop there. The 3.5 went for less then the 3.0 so it probably has to due with eye apeal and maybe the writing on the 3.5. The 3.0 went about 5% under GPA so I'd not call it a huge discount. The FF 1 CGc 7.0 went for more then the last 7.5 so I think that's a strong price. The 3.0 went for about GPA where as the 5.0 went for a bit less then the last sale but if you consider the last CGC 5.5 went for 20,000 and the 4.5 average is 13,500 then the $16,500 the 5.0 sold for is probably about where it should be. I didn't look at every mega key but most look to have sold for very close to GPA averages. The Lions Den and SamPool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, c_mkv said: I really hope I don't upset anyone and congratulations to all the winners in the auction. Is it just me or do prices seem to be softening a bit on some keys? Specifically silver age marvel keys ie: the FF1's, AF15's and Hulk 1's all seemd to sell for much less than I thought they would. Thoughts? Comments? I sure hope so. Larryw7 and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Images Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I think there is a softening of a lot of collector markets. For varying reasons. The Vectis Star Wars auction had a lot of soft prices too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Are we expecting everything to sell for more than the last sale now? batman_fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 hours ago, c_mkv said: I really hope I don't upset anyone and congratulations to all the winners in the auction. Is it just me or do prices seem to be softening a bit on some keys? Specifically silver age marvel keys ie: the FF1's, AF15's and Hulk 1's all seemd to sell for much less than I thought they would. Thoughts? Comments? I had this thought also while watching the auction. IMO, this is common for this time of year. Keys_Collector and comicjack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ygogolak said: Are we expecting everything to sell for more than the last sale now? Unfortunately, that seems to be true. Last Sale GPA is King. Edited November 29, 2018 by Bomber-Bob Keys_Collector and ygogolak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bomber-Bob said: IMO, this is common for this time of year. This. Same for GA in the auction. Edited November 29, 2018 by Gotham Kid aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian48 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I'm not surprised. Holiday season. People spending a lot of money else where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Maybe people chasing other keys ? I thought the price on this was ridiculous. $31,000 MARVEL SUPER-HEROES #13 Edited November 29, 2018 by batmiesta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmiesta Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brian48 said: I'm not surprised. Holiday season. People spending a lot of money else where. Yeah! Like on books I was after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 47 minutes ago, batmiesta said: Maybe people chasing other keys ? I thought the price on this was ridiculous. $31,000 MARVEL SUPER-HEROES #13 completely ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 The pre-hero JIMs got strong prices that would have been stronger if I was in a position to bid. bc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 i also think these premiere auction pull in the buyers who are looking for the rare highest grade comics that don't come to market very often (especially Golden Age stuff) so the more common keys get a little less love compared to the regular auctions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, batmiesta said: Maybe people chasing other keys ? I thought the price on this was ridiculous. $31,000 MARVEL SUPER-HEROES #13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Callaway29 said: 1 hour ago, batmiesta said: Maybe people chasing other keys ? I thought the price on this was ridiculous. $31,000 MARVEL SUPER-HEROES #13 It is. Speculation as an end in itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageComics Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 4 hours ago, c_mkv said: I really hope I don't upset anyone and congratulations to all the winners in the auction. Is it just me or do prices seem to be softening a bit on some keys? Specifically silver age marvel keys ie: the FF1's, AF15's and Hulk 1's all seemd to sell for much less than I thought they would. Thoughts? Comments? While selling this time of year can be hit and miss (some buyers are distracted by the holidays, while others have record amounts of money to spend as Christmas bonuses) I think the real reason is the change in internet tax laws. Comiclink now charges taxes in 8 states (I'm not sure what Heritage and CC do), which reduces bidding prices as bidders factor in those taxes into their final bids. I think this is a fairly significant factor that will affect prices. And as governments continually look to recover lost revenue in the digital age I only see this trend increasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 The fact that the auction was held at the same time the stock market had suffered a ten percent correction didn’t help. Rising interest rates don’t create an environment conducive to record sales. Bomber-Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 1 hour ago, VintageComics said: While selling this time of year can be hit and miss (some buyers are distracted by the holidays, while others have record amounts of money to spend as Christmas bonuses) I think the real reason is the change in internet tax laws. Comiclink now charges taxes in 8 states (I'm not sure what Heritage and CC do), which reduces bidding prices as bidders factor in those taxes into their final bids. I think this is a fairly significant factor that will affect prices. And as governments continually look to recover lost revenue in the digital age I only see this trend increasing. The revenue isn’t lost, it simply doesn’t belong to them unless they legislate to seize more of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 6 hours ago, c_mkv said: I really hope I don't upset anyone and congratulations to all the winners in the auction. Is it just me or do prices seem to be softening a bit on some keys? Specifically silver age marvel keys ie: the FF1's, AF15's and Hulk 1's all seemd to sell for much less than I thought they would. Thoughts? Comments? Variances of 10-15% are common between auctions. Lots of factors to consider with every book. But overall softening of the market for these books... no I don't think that is happening yet. Which particular books did you think would sell for much more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
