Posting on CAF too soon 1 1

[comix4fun]

Just now, vodou said:

Does this win the prize? I bought this from Mario in April 2008 off eBay for a lot less than $1500

It might be worth $1500 almost eleven years later.

Good thing I'm not trying to compete with him to re-sell it, eh?

I think you might, his posting goes back to year 2 or so of CAF and your purchase is a couple years after.....10+ years? Jeez. 

[cstojano]

I actually called Heritage about their combined shipping because it didn't seem to be working. You do get charged shipping with each order, and it seems you do save a little bit of money, but not much. Here's my summer haul listed by value since insurance figures into things

Value

1500   $30.92

750     $13.50

720     $13.14

1950   $16.65

180     $7.56

550    $13.14

1300  $22.35

708   $13.50

There were all animation cels, so flat, 2D items of limited weight that could easily be packed into a  box. They arrived with standard, excellent HA packing, of course.

Note I didn't realize that you have to tell them to not only ship a batch of items but to stop holding your items. When I received these lots and won another I realized they started holding them again.

 

 

 

 

 

[vodou]

2 minutes ago, comix4fun said:

I think you might, his posting goes back to year 2 or so of CAF and your purchase is a couple years after.....10+ years? Jeez. 

Mario was crazy active in Cockrum X-Men, mostly second run, for a while, really a PITA for me as competition as he'd pay anything (ugh!) and I stopped out at reasonable +20%

Anyway, he sold most of it that I could see (and probably a few I couldn't) and disappeared, including never replying to the numerous e-mails and CFA private messages I sent him way back when asking to pull that thing down. Even the public comment was ignored. I hope it wasn't something really bad that happened to him but rather just walked away from the hobby and otherwise doing good.

[▫️]

6 minutes ago, vodou said:

Does this win the prize? I bought this from Mario in April 2008 off eBay for a lot less than $1500

It might be worth $1500 almost eleven years later.

Good thing I'm not trying to compete with him to re-sell it, eh?

Better than mine.  I bought this drawing last May and it’s still up for sale. I don’t have it in my gallery though.

https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1453898

[comix4fun]

Just now, vodou said:

Mario was crazy active in Cockrum X-Men, mostly second run, for a while, really a PITA for me as competition as he'd pay anything (ugh!) and I stopped out at reasonable +20%

Anyway, he sold most of it that I could see (and probably a few I couldn't) and disappeared, including never replying to the numerous e-mails and CFA private messages I sent him way back when asking to pull that thing down. Even the public comment was ignored. I hope it wasn't something really bad that happened to him but rather just walked away from the hobby and otherwise doing good.

If it's the same guy I am thinking of he was also into Romita Jr. X-men, he would email me once every couple of months asking me to sell this or that. Went on for years. He stopped cold turkey a few years back. Probably the same time he stopped responding to you. 

[vodou]

Just now, comix4fun said:

If it's the same guy I am thinking of he was also into Romita Jr. X-men, he would email me once every couple of months asking me to sell this or that. Went on for years. He stopped cold turkey a few years back. Probably the same time he stopped responding to you. 

Could be him, check your e-mails for his full name (it's on CAF). He was pretty aggressive and took a bath when he sold, lots of things went for circa half what he paid.

[CartoonFanboy]

16 hours ago, Brian Peck said:

Once you complete a deal for a piece either completed paying for it or with a trade the other person has received the piece in trade is when you can post. I know one collector that thinks its bad luck to post art before he has received it. With HA I usually don't wait til I have received the artwork to post it, many times I wait until I have a few auction wins for HA to ship them to me.

 

 

I'm totally one of those guys who's superstitious about posting art before I have it in hand 

[mister_not_so_nice]

2 hours ago, Oddball said:

Absolutely, if it’s gone, let it go.

But what if it's "gone but not forgotten"?  (Oh that irks me) 

 

CAF is for your collection. If it is in your collection, feel free to share if you choose.  If it is not in your collection the jpg belongs in a folder on your computer. I have dozens of scans of art I don't own, but no one knows that because I don't post them to CAF 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2018 by mister_not_so_nice
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[Sideshow Bob]

On 12/6/2018 at 2:33 PM, mister_not_so_nice said:

But what if it's "gone but not forgotten"?  (Oh that irks me) 

 

CAF is for your collection. If it is in your collection, feel free to share if you choose.  If it is not in your collection the jpg belongs in a folder on your computer. I have dozens of scans of art I don't own, but no one knows that because I don't post them to CAF 

I have a "sold but not forgotten" folder that is not public. When I sell a piece, I move it to that directory. In the couple instances where I have re-acquired a piece, I just move it back to the active directory. 

[ESeffinga]

Just piling on as another example , I never post until the work is at least in hand, and even then, not everything

The waiting is a mix of superstitious and practical, as others have said.

I’ve had work arrive mangled from poor packaging.

I did a trade with a guy where we were both supposed to send pieces on a Monday. I sent mine, and by Wednesday discovered he waited until it arrived, compared it to what he wanted to trade, decided he liked his better (they were apples and oranges) and sent my piece back. 

I’ve bought a piece on eBay, only to find the seller “damaged it while packing” and they refunded my money. i.e., they were approached by someone after the auction offering more than I paid at auction close, and backed out.

Or the time or two where I bought a piece and the would be seller just outright told me after the fact that someone else was offering more and they weren’t going to follow through, but were instead suggesting we essentially bid for it via emails. Highest offer takes it (after I’d already paid up).

Needless to say these were all our last dealings, but also more reasons to wait.

After a quarter century+ I have a number of sketchy art deal stories that effect my decision. 

Sure, for every bad experience there were probably many dozens or a hundred that went off without a hitch, so like a 1% ratio, but why even bother with posting it, when it’s so simple to wait a week? Or a year. I get the data entry aspect but I’ve never used the CAF built in tools.

Again, as someone that’s had his CC mined from an online retailer during a hack, somehow the idea of putting dollar figures of my collection up on a single online source to be data mined in a hack?

I prefer to keep those files offline, and even off my hard drive at home along with any other financials. Call it minor paranoia, but I just avoid it where I can. 

By collecting for me, and not an audience, I don’t feel compelled to immediately share new acquisitions. But on the other side of that token, I do like to be part of the participating OA community, and so I share work to dialogue with and return the favor of other like-minded collectors that share my interests.

Participation is very important to me because of the friendships and connections. But I guess I’m just in the better safe than sorry camp.

BUT, that is all just how I treat my own pieces. I’d never tell anyone how to collect or share their own collection. I might suggest reasons I wouldn’t, but not to the point of criticizing how they roll. I’m generally just happy that art collectors share at all. I was not an early adopter of CAF, as I’ve mentioned before, and I took convincing. 

So now that I see it from the other side, I’m jazzed when anyone shares OA pieces... minus all the would-be comic artists tracing porn photos and hastily scribbling “costumes” on, that have flooded CAF and eBay over the last decade. 

Should anyone buy one of those...please don’t post immediately. Or ever.

Edited December 8, 2018 by ESeffinga

[mister_not_so_nice]

On 12/7/2018 at 6:57 PM, Sideshow Bob said:

I have a "sold but not forgotten" folder that is not public. When I sell a piece, I move it to that directory. In the couple instances where I have re-acquired a piece, I just move it back to the active directory. 

If the folder is inactive, you can have all you want. I have 10 inactive folders. They don't clog searches or create redundancies when someone is looking. 

 

Just came across a CAF that was updated in the last 24 hours. It's under a "collector"'s name, but he is a full on dealer with his own website.  TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY pieces in his "SOLD" folder.   Absolutely ridiculous!

[Panelfan1]

34 minutes ago, mister_not_so_nice said:

If the folder is inactive, you can have all you want. I have 10 inactive folders. They don't clog searches or create redundancies when someone is looking. 

 

Just came across a CAF that was updated in the last 24 hours. It's under a "collector"'s name, but he is a full on dealer with his own website.  TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTY pieces in his "SOLD" folder.   Absolutely ridiculous!

Is that guy who's  art also shows up on romitaman site simultaneously? Name eludes me.

[mister_not_so_nice]

1 minute ago, Panelfan1 said:

Is that guy who's  art also shows up on romitaman site simultaneously? Name eludes me.

Not sure about that. Especially since he has his own website for selling OA. 

What any person does on their own website, how they manage it, is up to them. 

If CAF stood for ComicArtFantasy, my gallery would have some additional scans. But it doesn't. It is for sharing your collection. And a piece can't be "sold" AND in your collection at the same time. 

[Panelfan1]

Caf does have a favorites gallery you can 'follow' art in other collections.  I use that function and might be a good way to keep track of art that is not in your collection.