For February 2019, at 2 Auction Houses, 3 Ms. Marvel Covers...
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CLink has the 18...

HA has the 4 & the 19...

...Evaluations, anyone...??

...Rank 'em, from 'Highest' to 'Lowest' final bids (include BP, sales tax, & shipping)...!!

...Feel free to elaborate, if need be...

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4, 18, 19.  $20K, $15K, $10K.

  Original Comic Art:Covers, John Buscema - Original Unpublished Cover Art for Ms. Marvel #4(Marvel, 1977). Here's a blast (literally) from the past... ... 

I have a soft spot for Hannigan (and Romita? that will go highest). Then some Cockrum with crackle.  David

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I love #18, but it's drawn on vellum, so that could impact the value.  I don't recall any other time that Cockrum used vellum.  Maybe it was a one time experiment?

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4 hours ago, tlatner said:

I love #18, but it's drawn on vellum, so that could impact the value.  I don't recall any other time that Cockrum used vellum.  Maybe it was a one time experiment?

I hadn't checked that listing, nice catch!  It would definitely affect the value for me, some others might say the great image and the historic value would override the vellum aspect.

Certainly an asterisk!  David

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The Ms. Marvel #4 cover is signed John Buscema, and variously credited to John Romita, Sr., Joe Sinnott, and Ed Hannigan.  I freely acknowledge my debt to Ed Hannigan for my interest in comic art, since he introduced  me to some of his covers about 25 years ago.  He was a long time layout artist and penciller among other duties for the big two. 

None of these Ms. Marvel covers ever belonged to me (I wish!).

David

 

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On 12/28/2018 at 9:08 AM, Doc67 said:

The best cover by far is the #18.  Cockrum is the superior artist.  The book is a key issue and the cover is a “classic” (via Overstreet).  No one cares about the vellum anymore.  10 years ago, the vellum would have made a huge difference.  Not now.  I have seen too many pieces sell for top dollar that were vellum.  I can’t remember the last time that a piece of art sold cheaply because of vellum.  A Cockrum Ms Marvel panel page is $3-3.5k now.  I say that equals $35k on this cover.  Could go higher. 

The next best cover is the #19.  JRJR is the second best artist here.  The cover has Capt Marvel as well as Ms Marvel.  It is the next best image.  Again, a quality Ms Marvel page is $2-2.5k.  $25k.

The least desirable is the Hannigan.  Anyone who says that Hannigan is a more desirable artist than Cockrum either has a personal vestment or is trying to mislead you.  There Is no decent Ms Marvel page under $1500.  I say $15-18k on this one.

i am normally low in my estimations.  I hardly ever win any covers.  And I always bid what I think is FMV.  So, expect these prices plus maybe 20% for the auction burst.  The HA will set new records and the Comiclink cover will follow.

i am one of the biggest Ms Marvel collectors out there.  So, I feel like I have a very good handle on the market.

Allen

 

Has the Cockrum cover been restored? I remember seeing it years ago and it seemed to have had more yellowing. Maybe I'm wrong. Also, I think you're dead right on the rankings, Allen. 

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3 hours ago, fsumavila said:

Has the Cockrum cover been restored? I remember seeing it years ago and it seemed to have had more yellowing. Maybe I'm wrong. Also, I think you're dead right on the rankings, Allen. 

The #18 should be worth more as it has been professionally conserved - our community needs to move away from the comic book perspective and towards art in this respect, a conserved piece of art has been invested in by a previous owner so now you don't have to go to the trouble of getting it conserved yourself.
(that said, a re-inked piece of art is something different - not sure if the vellum treatment here is considered restoration or conservation but an improvement either way)

I didn't own the #18 but made the mistake of not buying it when it emerged - one of those memories that still hurts a bit!

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If anyone can set up a poll, I'd be interested in people picking their favorite Ms. Marvel cover (but without #1 as that is too easy a selection)

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3 minutes ago, mtlevy1 said:

If anyone can set up a poll, I'd be interested in people picking their favorite Ms. Marvel cover (but without #1 as that is too easy a selection)

I prefer the later Ms Marvel issues with the new costume by Cockrum. Ms Marvel #20 is the cover I like best.

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2 minutes ago, Brian Peck said:

I prefer the later Ms Marvel issues with the new costume by Cockrum. Ms Marvel #20 is the cover I like best.

Cool pick - I don't remember seeing #20 in the wild...anyone see it live?

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On 12/28/2018 at 9:08 AM, Doc67 said:

No one cares about the vellum anymore.  10 years ago, the vellum would have made a huge difference.  Not now.  I have seen too many pieces sell for top dollar that were vellum.  I can’t remember the last time that a piece of art sold cheaply because of vellum.  

 

I wouldn't go so far as to speak in absolutes, as some on this very thread were turned off by the vellum.

Personally, I don't think I'd care about the vellum as the long as the piece was in good condition, but from what someone said here- the piece looks good post-resto.

I'd also agree with those who said the #18 has the best image.

I remember a vellum silver age Flash cover (#176) that sold very cheaply several years ago. There was some controversy around that one at the time IIRC though, and there were a couple other things to factor in.

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Ms. Marvel #18...

...it will be reprinted in color and used for the cover of the CLink Winter Featured Auction catalog...it breaks $31k but stops short of $36k...and then it reappears on your favorite original comic book art dealer's website for $65k within two months...

Ms. Marvel #19...

...it will break $25k* but stops short of $32k, with all the 'trimmings' included.

Ms. Marvel #4...

...it will break $20k* but stops short of $27k, with all the 'trimmings' included.

[*Multiple 'variables' and/or 'special' interests will be at play here]

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Reserves, if any, post 2/14/2019...and after one day of 'thrill' bidding...

Ms. Marvel #19, approaching $12k...

Ms. Marvel #4, approaching $8k...

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Well.  Still 3 weeks left until the HA.

Ms Marvel #19 is already at $15.6k.  I said $25-30k. I could even be low.  This is getting high quickly.  But, dang!, it is a pretty one!!!

Ms Marvel #4 is at $10.8k.  I said (a big range here...) $18-21.6k.  

I might have underestimated these pieces.  I guess it could be a situation where there is a very small supply of these first run covers, so they could be tough pieces to score.  Only 23 of these bad boys out there for us to scrap over...

Allen

 

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The item that most surprised me this auction was the sealed booster box of first edition pokemon cards. $66K is amazing to me.

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On 2/3/2019 at 11:08 AM, Doc67 said:

Ms Marvel #4 is at $10.8k.  I said (a big range here...) $18-21.6k.  

Hammers at $12K, ends at $14.4K with the juice.  I thought it would do better as well. 

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48 minutes ago, delekkerste said:

Hammers at $12K, ends at $14.4K with the juice.  I thought it would do better as well. 

Low hammer because of some people questioning who the artists are. I think its Buscema but some say Joe Sinnott, and by Ed Hannigan and John Romita Sr. 

 

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The cabal let me down :cry:

I am surprised the Spider-Man Annual hammered as low as it did.  I thought any early Romita cover was $100k regardless of whether it was an annual or not.  Usually I under estimate prices.

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1 minute ago, batman_fan said:

The cabal let me down :cry:

I am surprised the Spider-Man Annual hammered as low as it did.  I thought any early Romita cover was $100k regardless of whether it was an annual or not.  Usually I under estimate prices.

Don't worry, it will be on RomitaMan.com for 2x next month.  :)

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