IYO Which is the better copy?
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I have 2 Avengers #57....Both have Huge Problems but completely different problems.

I dont know which is the better copy.

 

copy #1

*has the Coupon clipped from the back of the cover....

*and has Deep writing Carved into the cover, The writing does not break the cover but its deep

 

 

 

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Copy #2

*Has A Hole(looks to be made by a pen) through the entire book

 

 

 

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Both are bad.....which is the best copy?

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Just now, thehumantorch said:

:foryou:  Agreed

 

Just now, faster friends said:

Id take the one with the hole 

thank you guys...

what would you grade the 1 with the hole in it?

I have no clue what kind of effect that kind of damage has on the grade?

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wow those are both painful to look at. Poked hole thru entire book is kind of a unique defect. I have no idea how CGC would account for it. At least its complete unlike the other copy.

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My best guess is:  The one with the hole would likely come out on top. The grade would probably end up in the GD/VG range (3.0) even with the tape repair. 

The copy with the missing coupon would probably end up in the Good range (2.0 - 2.5).  

 

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14 hours ago, faster friends said:

Id take the one with the hole 

+1

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13 hours ago, The Lions Den said:

My best guess is:  The one with the hole would likely come out on top. The grade would probably end up in the GD/VG range (3.0) even with the tape repair. 

The copy with the missing coupon would probably end up in the Good range (2.0 - 2.5).  

 

thank you so much...this help a lot

I virtually had no clue how to even start to grade them

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The one with the hole is still complete. I'd take that over the 1/10 of the bc missing AND damaged fc book any day.

The holy book is imo 2.5 - hard to say it's not a 3.0 or a 2.0 either.

 

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Well, I was lamenting the condition of my copy of that book the other day. But not any more. So thank you for that. ;)

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On 1/13/2019 at 3:02 PM, jcjames said:

The one with the hole is still complete.

I thought that if the hole 'cut out' some panels, especially words in the panels, it may be regarded as Incomplete. (shrug)

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I'd probably take the hole book but the hole does affect the panels inside (story and art) and the POBC doesn't.  But honestly, if you afford it or save up, I would sell both of these copies and buy a complete copy even low grade if necessary.

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1 hour ago, Bomber-Bob said:

I thought that if the hole 'cut out' some panels, especially words in the panels, it may be regarded as Incomplete. (shrug)

Could be, but this hole looked like it missed taking out words and only grazed the panels, at least from the pics posted. I wouldn't call that one incomplete. But that's just me.

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20 minutes ago, jcjames said:

Could be, but this hole looked like it missed taking out words and only grazed the panels, at least from the pics posted. I wouldn't call that one incomplete. But that's just me.

From the looks of this pic, you don't think the panels were affected ? (shrug)

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said:

From the looks of this pic, you don't think the panels were affected ? (shrug)

 

 

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Based on the pic of the splashpage, it looks like it only grazed the border of the panels. If the other pages are like that, not as bad I'd say.

Interesting question though, whether a hole that small that did or did not take out letters would make it "incomplete". I don't believe it would be. (shrug)

 

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16 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said:

I thought that if the hole 'cut out' some panels, especially words in the panels, it may be regarded as Incomplete. (shrug)

Bob

I think it is a subjective call and possibly based on the significance.  Here is one of mine and though notated still received a blue label of 2.5.  I assume the holes although through the hole book would still be regarded as slight but I am not certain.

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if I have to choose I prefer the copy with the hole.

What I would do: sell both of those, and use the money generated to buy one better copy book. Probably be able to get a solid 4.0 or 4.5.

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