Bomber-Bob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, MBFan said: CGC has responded, and "canvassing" is indeed a pressing issue: "Canvassing refers to a pattern that has been pressed into the cover during pressing, likely from whatever surface was used against it. It looks like a cross stitched pattern." My friend reports that he's been using teflon sheets (which often have a light weave texture) when pressing books and is going back to silicone paper. So a DIY presser has enabled a new defect. CGC should name it after him ! Hope you are not having him press your books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, joeypost said: Another short cut shot down by CGC. For anyone who wants to press books there is only one way to do it... the right way. I suspected it was this Teflon material as I have seen others use it and I noticed this light texture that was pressed into the covers. I have worked on two books like this and removing it is not easy. Hopefully your friend has insurance or will cover you for the damage he has caused to the books already graded with this issue. I think that guy recomending pressing with a clothes iron mentioned using Teflon. I think he was challenged on it but said it works just fine. I hope the guy from this thread only works on his own books. If he is selling his services, he should be outted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, joeypost said: Hopefully your friend has insurance or will cover you for the damage he has caused to the books already graded with this issue. The person in question has not pressed any of my books. (In fact, you are the only presser I have ever employed so far.) Saw the news about "canvassing" on a Facebook post and just wanted to spread the word here so others could avoid such a problem. Hutch88 and joeypost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) On 1/26/2019 at 5:12 PM, MBFan said: The person is a presser, so he doesn't send books to CCS. He says the term "canvassing" has popped up in grader notes on some books that are currently being shipped back to him. Maybe he should send books to someone who knows what they are doing. Saves $15 on the pressing but reduces the books value by $75.00. Sound like a sound business model. p.s. I misread who’s books were pressed. At least he didn’t charge someone for damaging their books. Edited January 28, 2019 by joeypost greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, MBFan said: The person in question has not pressed any of my books. (In fact, you are the only presser I have ever employed so far.) Saw the news about "canvassing" on a Facebook post and just wanted to spread the word here so others could avoid such a problem. Does he sell his pressing services ? I don't understand why the presser himself didn't see the 'canvassing'. The fact that he sent them in for grading, with the flaw, doesn't say much about his skills, or his eyesight. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBFan Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said: Does he sell his pressing services ? I don't understand why the presser himself didn't see the 'canvassing'. The fact that he sent them in for grading, with the flaw, doesn't say much about his skills, or his eyesight. Don't know the details. Read about it in a local FB group and came here to share and see if anyone here had knowledge to contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 hours ago, MBFan said: Don't know the details. Read about it in a local FB group and came here to share and see if anyone here had knowledge to contribute. A Facebook group...all is revealed. Krismusic, Logan510 and bighairjer 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Getting new canvassing done on the boat next week. Jaylam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Liebl Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, comicdonna said: Getting new canvassing done on the boat next week. The two best days of my life were with a boat... the day I bought it and the day I sold it! Jaylam, Tony S, thehumantorch and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 bhooks must be pressing again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Pirate said: bhooks must be pressing again His were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. He pressed right over the rubber pad on the bottom of the press. greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Check this beauty out. Wrinkling over canvassing. Tony S, comicdonna, Bomber-Bob and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Condon Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 So what was the grade you got back? Does anyone know how much "canvassing" takes off your grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 8:13 PM, joeypost said: Check this beauty out. Wrinkling over canvassing. what caused the wrinkling is that from the Teflon paper? or High heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronosafe Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I just got a batch back from CGC that I pressed using a teflon sheet that got no grader notes and were 9.2s to 9.8s. Like anything else it's probably a matter of technique. I think if the heat is too high you will get a pattern in the paper. I prefer "low and slow", especially with modern books. Thanks for the warning though, I'm going to switch to silicone paper for my next batch. B2D327 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm-Mix Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 (edited) On 9/10/2019 at 12:04 PM, chronosafe said: I just got a batch back from CGC that I pressed using a teflon sheet that got no grader notes and were 9.2s to 9.8s. Like anything else it's probably a matter of technique. I think if the heat is too high you will get a pattern in the paper. I prefer "low and slow", especially with modern books. Thanks for the warning though, I'm going to switch to silicone paper for my next batch. Any thoughts on parchment vs silicone paper? I just got a bunch back with the canvassing notes. I didn't even know this was a thing. All paper has a texture. Edited October 20, 2020 by Calm-Mix Adding to question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calm-Mix Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Does Canvassing effect the grade? Or is it just in the notes? I didn't see anywhere that gave a clear answer from CGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, Calm-Mix said: Does Canvassing effect the grade? Or is it just in the notes? I didn't see anywhere that gave a clear answer from CGC. Anything that affects the overall appearance of the book usually affects the grade... thehumantorch and comicdonna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokiing Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 2/20/2019 at 5:13 PM, joeypost said: Check this beauty out. Wrinkling over canvassing. Leather bound might be a more descriptive term. RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qalyar Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Calm-Mix said: Does Canvassing effect the grade? Or is it just in the notes? I didn't see anywhere that gave a clear answer from CGC. Why wouldn't it? It is a post-manufacturing defect caused by mishandling of the book. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
