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Reasons for DC layoffs
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11 hours ago, Logan510 said:

I think it does make a difference, it’s a lack of creativity. Instead of creating a new character they’re trying to awkwardly shoehorn a minority into whatevever character.

While there might be an element of 'lack of creativity' present, don't discount the idea that anyone with the creativity to come up with a new and interesting character is not going to freely hand it over to a corporation as part of their work-for-hire contract.

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5 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:

 

Kav, you really think this guy doesn't have any talent?

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I disagree. It may not be to your - or my - taste, but I would certainly not say the guy has no talent. I don't like Byrne's art, violently, but I accept he has talent. It's just not to my taste. 

I think it is possible to identify a lack of talent in any field in life, that would meet with more or less common consensus. But I feel this guy is getting a load of stick for one panel, when his overall body of work unquestionably indicates a talent for comic book art. If he was your son, and came home from school with the above art portfolio, are you really saying you would advise him he's talentless and should focus his energies elsewhere?

So this is my further contribution - sticking up for someone who I feel you are unfairly traducing. 

 

well said.

And please everyone do not forget that comic artists are told what to draw by the -script they are mailed. Often it is a detailed and controlling descriptive write up.

"overhead view, the view to be from behind Batgirl who is still in costume and she is brushing her teeth at the sink. She lives in a low rent apartment, draw a door behind the bathtub."

Yes it is dumb, but it is paying work and you do what you have to.

 

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1 hour ago, stock_rotation said:

While there might be an element of 'lack of creativity' present, don't discount the idea that anyone with the creativity to come up with a new and interesting character is not going to freely hand it over to a corporation as part of their work-for-hire contract.

I understand that's the reality of the situation now as everyone thinks they have the next Mickey Mouse :eyeroll:

I do miss the older guard who thought of it as a honor that their creation was in the Marvel Universe or DC Universe intermingling with their childhood favorites.

 

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2 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:

Can he draw, Batman?

He's certainly not the best artist I've ever seen however I would say yes he can draw. I hear he specialises in making wallpaper look a little bit like a door but not very much.

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7 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:

 

Kav, you really think this guy doesn't have any talent?

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I disagree. It may not be to your - or my - taste, but I would certainly not say the guy has no talent. I don't like Byrne's art, violently, but I accept he has talent. It's just not to my taste. 

I think it is possible to identify a lack of talent in any field in life, that would meet with more or less common consensus. But I feel this guy is getting a load of stick for one panel, when his overall body of work unquestionably indicates a talent for comic book art. If he was your son, and came home from school with the above art portfolio, are you really saying you would advise him he's talentless and should focus his energies elsewhere?

So this is my further contribution - sticking up for someone who I feel you are unfairly traducing. 

 

I would say son work on clothes and hair-and try not to draw like so many other artists to the extent your art is mistaken for others.

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8 minutes ago, kav said:

I would say son work on clothes and hair-and try not to draw like so many other artists to the extent your art is mistaken for others.

There have always been stylistic similarities.  The same critique could be applied to Bill Sienkiewicz, Rich Buckler, Mike Nasser, Tom Grindberg, Alan Davis, and their similarity to Neal Adams. 

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1 minute ago, Ken Aldred said:

There have always been stylistic similarities.  The same critique could be applied to Sienkiewicz, Buckler, Nasser, Grindberg, (Alan) Davis,  and their similarity to Neal Adams. 

similarity is one thing but people can say thats adams thats seinkiewics this guy-we're not even sure who he is or who drew the batgirl page.  Is it this guy? is it this guy? they all look alike-

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29 minutes ago, NamesJay said:

Has anybody been able to identify the issue yet? 

Of the 650 million references I've seen about it online, not one says which book it's in, or who the artist is. You've created a monster Jay.

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On 1/30/2019 at 7:45 PM, kav said:

Superman's bed tho:
 

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Is there some reason Superman needs so much room on his bed?  hm

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