Ken Aldred Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) I was in my twenties when I read Sandman. For me, it only started getting really interesting around the Corinthian storyline, issue 10 onwards; "The Doll's House" arc. I did feel that from the final, long story arc, 'The Kindly Ones', it began to drag a bit. But, for most of the run, a title I looked forward to picking up. Edited February 11, 2019 by Ken Aldred Prince Namor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Namor Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scrooge said: I agree. Way over written making it a slog to go through. Which is a shame, because I remember absolutely loving the first issue and thinking, 'This is so cool!" Edited February 11, 2019 by Chuck Gower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Chuck Gower said: Uh... which Miracle Man? The 4th World stuff I loved more every time I've read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, FoggyNelson said: Yes cheers was laugh out loud , that’s funny that you didn’t get it when you were little🤪🤪🤪🥴😄 I am kind of glad I got it now as I can appreciate it better. Edited February 12, 2019 by ComicConnoisseur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Namor Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said: LOL, I got that confused! Been a while since I read this all the way through... but the last time I did, I enjoyed it. Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Miracleman was fantastic the first time thru (I was probably about 26-27 when I read it). Fast forward many years to when Marvel started the reprints...I bought them (as overpriced as they were) and it was pretty good, but not as mind-blowing as the first read. I didn’t make it back up to the “Silver Age” arc, but I suspect that arc would still be interesting/relevant all these years later. Prince Namor and kav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Ken Aldred said: I was in my twenties when I read Sandman. For me, it only started getting really interesting around the Corinthian storyline, issue 10 onwards; "The Doll's House" arc. I did feel that from the final, long story arc, 'The Kindly Ones', it began to drag a bit. But, for most of the run, a title I looked forward to picking up, Doll’s House was great. So wonderfully bizarre. The stand alone books (especially 13) between DH and Seasons of Mist were really strong. A Game of You was a bit much at first, but it really works on re-read(s). It did drag at the end, but the first 50 issues (or more) are probably as good as it gets in the medium. Mr Sneeze, ComicConnoisseur and Ken Aldred 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, chrisco37 said: Miracleman was fantastic the first time thru (I was probably about 26-27 when I read it). Fast forward many years to when Marvel started the reprints...I bought them (as overpriced as they were) and it was pretty good, but not as mind-blowing as the first read. I didn’t make it back up to the “Silver Age” arc, but I suspect that arc would still be interesting/relevant all these years later. The copper age was in a way the second golden age. So many new things tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Man Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said: That`s how I was with the Cheers tv show,as a kid I didn't get it, but as an adult watching it now it`s one of the best tv shows ever made. I went and found WINGS on Hulu. Same writers as Cheers, with an amazing cast. Funny in the 1990's and still funny today. ComicConnoisseur and WeR138 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, kav said: The copper age was in a way the second golden age. So many new things tried. I’m with you there. Some incredible stuff from that decade; Miller DD, V for Vendetta, Simonson Thor, Wolfman/Perez Titans... kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, chrisco37 said: I’m with you there. Some incredible stuff from that decade; Miller DD, V for Vendetta, Simonson Thor, Wolfman/Perez Titans... not to mention all the indy stuff peter bagge, dan clowes, chester brown, dennis worden, seth, harvey pekar, crumb's Weirdo (which got ruined by his wife and her friends IMO) Edited February 12, 2019 by kav ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, kav said: not to mention all the indy stuff peter bagge dan clowes chester brown seth Crumb's Weirdo- Yes! “Hate” is sublime. So perfect. kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, chrisco37 said: Yes! “Hate” is sublime. So perfect. missed my change buying orig pages when they were $100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, chrisco37 said: Yes! “Hate” is sublime. So perfect. I used to correspond with him and clowes and seth and them guys. he told me he was gonna name the book I hate johan something because some guy in sweden or something screwed him on a business deal. I still have all the letters. I did a yummy fur parody called yucky cur and sent it to seth him and chet and joe got a BIG kick out of it. Edited February 12, 2019 by kav Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, kav said: Yeah it was V for Vendetta meets District 9 with the old the establishment is evil mwah ha ha!! For a guy that gives a lot of posters the s hits then I'd have thought you'd love a character who's main weapon was a bowel disrupter...... Edited February 12, 2019 by Beige spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beige said: For a guy that gives a lot of posters the s hits then I'd have thought you'd love a character who's main weapon was a bowel disrupter...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Beige said: For a guy that gives a lot of posters the s hits then I'd have thought you'd love a character who's main weapon was a bowel disrupter...... Remember there are hundreds of other posters I can interact with tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I always described Transmet as “Fear & Loathing meets Total Recall (Arnold). It’s some fun “warren Ellis-ey” stuff. Not as good as Planetary (his masterpiece, IMO). kav and Ken Aldred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Randall Dowling Posted February 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2019 I’m going to try and explain why I don’t read “modern” comics anymore. Bear with me as it takes a little explaining. When I was 6, it was 1977 and the Marvel universe was in full swing with most all of their titles. In addition, there was relatively easy access to the narratives of the early silver age stories through the Fireside collections, various reprints (Marvel Tales, etc.) and flashbacks. The overall storytelling experience was both broad and deep and every issue of a given title was another chapter in the story. I loved all of it. Each issue had its own struggles and emotional challenges that the characters had to deal with and left you wanting the next issue (speaking broadly). It was a rich landscape filled with amazing stories, new and old. After managing a comic book store in the early 90s, I found most of the comics to be lame and gimmicky. I don’t think I have to explain that, if you were there, you remember. Anyway, I started getting into golden age comics (mostly Fawcetts, DCs, and ECs) which were pretty amazing for all sorts of reasons that I won’t get into here (if you’ve collected golden age, you know what I’m speaking of). Simply put, the art and stories are pretty awesome and laid the ground work for everything that followed. Unfortunately, by the mid-90s, my interests had shifted and I stopped reading all comics for about 5 years. When I started buying new comics again in 1999, there were some really interesting titles. Even the Marvel and DC books had some amazing art... but every issue (speaking broadly), from a story standpoint, was like watching 5 minutes of a movie. Pretty unsatisfying. And they were very disconnected from the past, had little interconnectedness aside from disastrous “event” storylines (think house of m, secret invasion, blackest night, etc.). Eventually, they had so little substance that I realized I was only buying comics for the cover art. For many, this is enough. But I really miss the good stories. And most new comics are pretty awful reading. It doesn’t seem like there are any more storytellers like Roy Thomas, Archie Goodwin, Jack Kirby, Bill Gaines, Al Feldstein, Harvey Kurtzman, Will Eisner, or Stan Lee. And that’s why I don’t read “modern” comics. Apologies for the wall of text. P.S. Warren magazines are awesome through and through. If you haven’t checked them out, you’ll be glad when you do. mrc, Unca Ben, oakman29 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Yes, Warren's are awesome through and through. Randall Dowling and Ken Aldred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
