Thoughts on this Bob Kane drawing? 0

[AnkurJ]

I bought this back in 2002. What do y’all think? With so many fakes I expect the worst  

 

[NelsonAI]

 List it on Heritage.  

[Rick2you2]

If you really bought it, you've already had the "worst."

[Will_K]

Well, Bob Kane did sign his name to other artists' work... 

[glendgold]

Does anyone else remember this story? Heard it about 15 years ago. At some point Kane was tired of Batman and so to relax he painted clowns. One day Kane was complaining about how long his ghost was taking to draw something and a friend joked to him something along the lines of, "Maybe you'll have to draw Batman this time," and Kane said, "No, not my Batman ghost -- my clown ghost." 

BTW, Clown Ghost?  I'm trademarking that now. 

Edited February 14, 2019 by glendgold

[Bird]

I remember the clown ghost story as well.

[zhamlau]

Nope, pass.

[The Voord]

I reckon Bob Kane was being ghosted by a four year old child at the time of the OP's 'drawing', 1995.

Edited February 14, 2019 by The Voord

[pemart1966]

Bob Kane - famous for drawing the first half dozen Detective Comics featuring Batman and after that, all bets are off.  

[mxs7]

4 hours ago, The Voord said:

I reckon Bob Kane was being ghosted by a four year old child at the time of the OP's 'drawing', 1995.

The drawing being a bit too good is a tip-off.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 2/14/2019 at 4:26 AM, AnkurJ said:

I bought this back in 2002. What do y’all think? With so many fakes I expect the worst  

Hope you don't mind me using your thread to post this, but what do those in the know make of the items on this UK site, which emailed me this morning:

https://worldofsuperheroes.com/collections/signed-by-bob-kane

 

It's not my area of interest but I was intrigued nonetheless in a 'too good to be true?' kind of way.

 

[The Voord]

18 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

Hope you don't mind me using your thread to post this, but what do those in the know make of the items on this UK site, which emailed me this morning:

https://worldofsuperheroes.com/collections/signed-by-bob-kane

 

It's not my area of interest but I was intrigued nonetheless in a 'too good to be true?' kind of way.

 

Bob Kane Batman drawings are so old school.  Where are the clowns?  Send in the clowns!

[Get Marwood & I]

2 minutes ago, The Voord said:

Bob Kane Batman drawings are so old school.  Where are the clowns?  Send in the clowns!

Don't bother, you're here! 

[Get Marwood & I]

Just now, Get Marwood & I said:

3 minutes ago, The Voord said:

Bob Kane Batman drawings are so old school.  Where are the clowns?  Send in the clowns!

Don't bother, you're here! 

That was a joke Voord 

So, are these balderdash then or what?

[The Voord]

12 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

That was a joke Voord 

So, are these balderdash then or what?

I know, I fed it to you!  

[Get Marwood & I]

Just now, The Voord said:

I know, I fed it to you!  

Phew. You can't be too careful Voord - there's some touchy buggers around here 

[rlextherobot]

The clown story comes from Arnold Drake:

“Bob had gotten to the point where he never drew anything. Never drew anything on the Batman comics, anyway. [Sheldon] Moldoff was ghosting them all and when he didn’t, someone else did. The only thing I think Bob ever drew was when we’d be out somewhere, in a restaurant or someplace, and a pretty girl would come over to him and say, ‘Are you really the man who draws Batman?’ Then he could whip out a little sketch for her, a big sketch if she was wearing something low-cut and would bend over to watch him draw.

One day I’m over at his house to discuss this newspaper strip idea we had and he’s talking about who we might get to draw it. I was going to write it and we were going to get someone else to draw it. I’m not sure what Bob was going to do on it except sign his name. I said to him, 'Bob, isn’t it disappointing to you that you don’t draw any more? You were once such a great artist.’ He wasn’t but you had to talk to Bob that way.

He said, 'Oh, no. Let me show you something.’ He took me into a little room in his house. It was his studio. I didn’t even know he still had a studio. It was all set up with easels and things and there were paintings, paintings of clowns. You know the kind. Like the ones Red Skelton used to do. Just these insipid portraits of clowns, all signed very large, 'Bob Kane.’ He was so proud of them. He said, 'These are the paintings that are going to make me in the world of art. Batman was a big deal in one world and these paintings will soon be in every gallery in the world.’ He thought the Louvre was going to take down the Mona Lisa to put up his clown paintings. I didn’t have the heart to tell him.

So a few months later, I’m up at DC and I ran into Eddie Herron. Eddie was another writer up there and we got to talking and Bob’s name came up. Eddie said, 'Did you hear? Bob’s getting sued by one of his ghost artists.’

I said, 'How is that possible? Shelly Moldoff’s suing Bob? But they had a clear deal. Shelly knew he wasn’t going to get credit or anything…’

Eddie said, 'No, not Shelly.’ Bob was being sued by the person who’d painted the clowns for him…”

[batman_fan]

For Bob Kane original art I always operate under the assumption it is fake.  Don’t care who is selling it or what documentation comes with the piece.  Current value of bulk paper for recycling is ~$32/ton so weight the piece and use that number to calculate the value. 

[zhamlau]

My rule is similar: Does it look like something you would want? If yes, Bob probably didn't draw it.

[Will_K]

Forgeries aside... on top of Bill Finger getting screwed, Bob Kane is just...

Edited February 18, 2021 by Will_K