Tri-Color Brian Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Robot Man said: Great photo! Never saw that one before. If memory serves me, wasn’t this the first collection to be given a name and designated by collectors as a “pedigree”? No, it was the 2nd collection to be called a pedigree...according to the Pedigree website: COSMIC AEROPLANE The second earliest collection recognized as a pedigree, Cosmic Aeroplanes are famous for their distinct markings. Discovered in Salt Lake City, Utah in 1972, the collection was raided by a few collectors before being sold to David Faggiola, owner of the Cosmic Aeroplane Bookstore (hence the name). The books were subsequently and anonymously liquidated into the market. The collection was amassed by an art teacher during the ’40s and ‘50s to be used for demonstrative purposes for students. This is evident by the numerous checkmarks and notations written in pencil on the margins of each page, or on the cover. Because the collection had been assimilated long before the pedigree concept took hold, there are many unidentified in the market. Collectors enjoy the rush of discovering "lost" copies from the collection, an emotion similarly experienced by fans of the San Francisco, Okajima and Recil Macon pedigrees. There is no way of knowing the true size of the Cosmic Aeroplane collection, but it's rumored to be somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000. It yielded some big key issues like Adventure #40, Flash #1, and the Showcase #4 pictured on the cover of the 1992 Overstreet Grading Guide. The average grade of the collection is a bit lower than that of its fellow pedigrees, but the rumored size, presence of big keys, and easy identification has allowed the collection's legacy to prevail over the years. Frisco Larson, sagii and szav 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Although I visited the Cosmic Aeroplane store in SLC several times in the 70s, I never bought any of these books. I never even saw them...LOL but, I did buy my AF15 there, so I guess that counts for something... KobaltDog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: No, it was the 2nd collection to be called a pedigree...according to the Pedigree website: COSMIC AEROPLANE The second earliest collection recognized as a pedigree, Cosmic Aeroplanes are famous for their distinct markings. Discovered in Salt Lake City, Utah in 1972, the collection was raided by a few collectors before being sold to David Faggiola, owner of the Cosmic Aeroplane Bookstore (hence the name). The books were subsequently and anonymously liquidated into the market. The collection was amassed by an art teacher during the ’40s and ‘50s to be used for demonstrative purposes for students. This is evident by the numerous checkmarks and notations written in pencil on the margins of each page, or on the cover. Because the collection had been assimilated long before the pedigree concept took hold, there are many unidentified in the market. Collectors enjoy the rush of discovering "lost" copies from the collection, an emotion similarly experienced by fans of the San Francisco, Okajima and Recil Macon pedigrees. There is no way of knowing the true size of the Cosmic Aeroplane collection, but it's rumored to be somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000. It yielded some big key issues like Adventure #40, Flash #1, and the Showcase #4 pictured on the cover of the 1992 Overstreet Grading Guide. The average grade of the collection is a bit lower than that of its fellow pedigrees, but the rumored size, presence of big keys, and easy identification has allowed the collection's legacy to prevail over the years. My memory obviously doesn't serve me as well anymore. I knew it was one of the earliest big finds long before we ever heard the "pedigree" term. Wonder what the first was. Mile High? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post killerkomics Posted February 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 18, 2019 My one and only Cosmic Aeroplane; Spyder!, mwotka, entalmighty1 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, telerites said: I forgot about this one. I am posting it even though it is in an alien slab because I have already submitted and it is CGC's hands for the cross-over special. I assume it will keep the designation but I haven't seen the interior as it was bought in the voldy. Well since it's going to be in a cgc slab soon, I'll quote it. Cool book, and 'reunited' in the thread with my two issues from the series in the thread. Thought about sending mine in for the crossover program (I've done it with two other books already), but I guess I'm content with 8.0's on both. May/could comeback higher.....or lower Robot Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanCooper Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: The collection was amassed by an art teacher during the ’40s and ‘50s to be used for demonstrative purposes for students. This is evident by the numerous checkmarks and notations written in pencil on the margins of each page, or on the cover. Found this interesting from a link on the Cosmic Aeroplane on Wordpress (see following link) https://cosmicaeroplane.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/cosmic-aeroplane-comic-books-vol-i/ From Par (Parley) Holman: "Over the years I have read speculation from some Golden Age collectors as to the significance of the numbers and checkmarks. The consensus is some nonsense that the comics were part of an art service, which marked the books so their artists could re-draw the panels. This is what the checkmarks in the Cosmic Aeroplane Collection really signify: the original owner of the comics would check off panels he wanted to trace (crudely) in pencil on pieces of tracing paper. We took all of the tracing paper out of the comics before listing them for sale." Frisco Larson, comicnoir and october 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Robot Man said: My memory obviously doesn't serve me as well anymore. I knew it was one of the earliest big finds long before we ever heard the "pedigree" term. Wonder what the first was. Mile High? Well, if it makes you feel any better, I think the Pedigree site has the wrong date for the collection. According to Par Holman (see Dan Cooper's link above), it showed up around 1976...and yeah, I think either the Church or San Francisco collection was named first...but probably the San Francisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 4 hours ago, DanCooper said: Found this interesting from a link on the Cosmic Aeroplane on Wordpress (see following link) https://cosmicaeroplane.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/cosmic-aeroplane-comic-books-vol-i/ From Par (Parley) Holman: "Over the years I have read speculation from some Golden Age collectors as to the significance of the numbers and checkmarks. The consensus is some nonsense that the comics were part of an art service, which marked the books so their artists could re-draw the panels. This is what the checkmarks in the Cosmic Aeroplane Collection really signify: the original owner of the comics would check off panels he wanted to trace (crudely) in pencil on pieces of tracing paper. We took all of the tracing paper out of the comics before listing them for sale." This is a great article. Thanks for sharing that link... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 12:52 PM, Straw-Man said: dissolving some minor runs cost me a few of these; here are the only two currently in the ol' collection. I believe I still have first rights of refusal on this, should you decide to sell it, right Billy boy? After all, it DID land pretty hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 5:29 PM, telerites said: I forgot about this one. I am posting it even though it is in an alien slab because I have already submitted and it is CGC's hands for the cross-over special. I assume it will keep the designation but I haven't seen the interior as it was bought in the voldy. Regardless of whatever the interior holds, the checkmark in the "E" of Mystery is strong enough evidence that the pedigree is sound. telerites 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I think this is currently my only Cosmic …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frisco Larson Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Wait, I forgot this one. It's not a lot of book, but I DO like these early DCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 On 2/16/2019 at 12:17 PM, MrBedrock said: This book showed up in an auction about ten years ago. Gator and I were both interested. I let him have it and a year or two later he kindly passed it along. That Gator is A-OK in my book... We were at ponscon iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, G.A.tor said: On 2/16/2019 at 12:17 PM, MrBedrock said: This book showed up in an auction about ten years ago. Gator and I were both interested. I let him have it and a year or two later he kindly passed it along. That Gator is A-OK in my book... We were at ponscon iirc True dat. Billy tells many stories about that trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, MrBedrock said: True dat. Billy tells many stories about that trip. Is that the hair lip con? Got no memory like parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 Just now, G.A.tor said: Is that the hair lip con? Got no memory like parker "I wanna date you!" "How do you like your coffee?" "Well I don't know. I haven't tried it yet!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, MrBedrock said: "I wanna date you!" "How do you like your coffee?" "Well I don't know. I haven't tried it yet!" Hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jayman Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Seeing people asking whether they have a CA copy made me realize my raw copy of Amazing Adventures 2 has a check. I’d have to dig it out to look inside more but what say you all? entalmighty1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Not consistent with the pedigree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
