ComicConnoisseur Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Really none because as long as they keep making movies and TV shows they will continue to go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, jjonahjameson11 said: I can appreciate the scarcity of HOS 92 as much as anyone, but Swamp Thing is a C-level character and you are comparing its 1st appearance valuation against the 1st appearance of the modern X-Men, arguable the most popular title of the past 30+ years, and you’re telling me I’m wrong??? Lol 😂 Dude, swamp thing is awesome! In addition to being the first appearance, hos 92 has one of the best comic covers ever. It's also pretty rare. James Wan made aquaman a $ 1 Billion franchise... he will do a good job with the new R rated SWAMP thing tv show...The train is just getting started... https://bloody-disgusting.com/tv/3520898/james-wan-produced-swamp-thing-aims-rated-r-graphic-violence/ Edited February 24, 2019 by Wolverinex ADAMANTIUM and Naphtha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBRobin Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) How is a book "overpriced" if it consistently sells at those prices? Overpriced means something is "priced more than it is worth." If Sabertooth's first appearances are selling (not just being listed) at $500 in 9.0, that is how much it is worth. This thread should be titled "Prices on first appearances I wouldn't personally pay." Edited February 24, 2019 by SBRobin adampasz, ComicConnoisseur, jason4 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FineCollector Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 The price of Hero For Hire 1 seems to have been slowly dropping for a little while now. I think Spider-Woman is next... Spotlight 32 and Spider-Woman 1 aren't that hard to find. I don't know what's keeping them afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 17 minutes ago, Wolverinex said: In addition to being the first appearance, hos 92 has one of the best comic covers ever. But it's not, really. The character in HoS 92 is not the same character that appears in Swamp Thing 1 (and subsequent issues). KirbyJack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 40 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Really none because as long as they keep making movies and TV shows they will continue to go up. And once they stop, the bottom will drop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Lazyboy said: But it's not, really. The character in HoS 92 is not the same character that appears in Swamp Thing 1 (and subsequent issues). Yup. It's been retconned by Alan Moore as a previous incarnation of the Swamp Elemental. Not Alec Holland, but not totally without relevance. Edited February 24, 2019 by Ken Aldred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Lazyboy said: But it's not, really. The character in HoS 92 is not the same character that appears in Swamp Thing 1 (and subsequent issues). Yes, you are correct but its the initial incarnation. Most people and the market recognize HOS 92 as the creature's first appearance. Even the official dc website notes this. https://www.dccomics.com/characters/swamp-thing Edited February 24, 2019 by Wolverinex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtha Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 47 minutes ago, Lazyboy said: But it's not, really. The character in HoS 92 is not the same character that appears in Swamp Thing 1 (and subsequent issues). HOS was a series of one off stories. While the name Alec Holland is never mentioned, it's clear who is appearing in the issue. You could make this comparison with a whole stack of other characters...even 181 vs canon wolverine. WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, MadJimJaspers said: While the name Alec Holland is never mentioned, it's clear who is appearing in the issue. Yes, Alex Olson, who was murdered by the friend who was in love with his wife. You know you can actually read comics, right? 4 minutes ago, MadJimJaspers said: You could make this comparison with a whole stack of other characters...even 181 vs canon wolverine. RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, D84 said: And once they stop, the bottom will drop out. Whose to say they will stop? Been about 20 years since that first X-Men movie. jason4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Whose to say they will stop? Been about 20 years since that first X-Men movie. ... 30 since the first Michael Keaton Bat-Man. ComicConnoisseur and Larryw7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, KirbyJack said: ... 30 since the first Michael Keaton Bat-Man. And the first TMNT movie came out in 1990 and still new ones are being made... ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 HoS 92 is rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D84 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 18 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Whose to say they will stop? Been about 20 years since that first X-Men movie. Hollywood works in cycles. They will run something into the ground and move on. Look at westerns and crime dramas. Yes, they are still made but to a much smaller degree and they aren't the money makers they used to be. The modern prices have gone up exponentially since the first Avengers and sustaining those prices with a fickle public is problematic. There will always be the hard core collectors (like myself), but how many people invest in comics like they did Beanie babies, baseball cards, and the comics of the 90s? A big problem I am seeing is the buying of multiples again. This time it's back issues instead of the new ones. I know several people who bought multiple Hulk 181s. That book is common as dirt. When the prices dip, a large number of people will dump the books, flooding the market, and causing a downward spiral. This has happened in several markets throughout history. Comics are not above the whims of the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 every one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul747 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 3 hours ago, FineCollector said: The price of Hero For Hire 1 seems to have been slowly dropping for a little while now. I think Spider-Woman is next... Spotlight 32 and Spider-Woman 1 aren't that hard to find. I don't know what's keeping them afloat. time to buy high grade copies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgross.com Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, D84 said: I know several people who bought multiple Hulk 181s. That book is common as dirt. When the prices dip, a large number of people will dump the books, flooding the market, and causing a downward spiral. eh. as this book skyrocketed in 2018 there were plenty of sales trying to cash in on the boom. since fall, prices have come back a bit and even more copies came on the market, and you know, its holding its value just fine. it may not jump in value again for some time, but there wont be any downward spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) FF annual #6 is rocketing. Still on an upward trajectory. Get em now before its a $1000 book. Annihilus or Franklin appear in a movie and its game over that book will be out of reach. Edited February 24, 2019 by kav ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naphtha Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lazyboy said: Yes, Alex Olson, who was murdered by the friend who was in love with his wife. You know you can actually read comics, right? It's been awhile since I read it (and only once) so I wasn't aware he was actually named. I remembered him appearing to kill his murderer. Wolverine in 181 is never mentioned as a mutant nor any mention of mutant abilities. His claws are attached to his gloves, his costume is slightly different, and he has virtually no impact on the story other than as a distraction. Yes, I've read it... Thus, I made the comparison of 181 wolverine to X-men wolverine just as the comparison was made with HOS92 and Swamp thing 1. Edited February 24, 2019 by MadJimJaspers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
