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How many submissions does it take to get to the center of a 9.9 or perfect 10?
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Talk about a long thread title. lol

How many submissions does it take to get a 9.9 or 10? 

Does someone tell the grader this customer does a ridiculous amount of business with us so make sure you find a 9.9 or two in that submission? Or is it the grader was in a great mood that day (another strong reason weed should be legal)?  Is there a quota (a month by month totals could be very revealing but then we would know how much business they're doing - never gonna happen)?

From a business standpoint, how else would you reward a long time customer (besides the standard discount) or give the pesents a glimmer of hope?

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1 minute ago, HighRadArt said:

Talk about a long thread title. lol

How many submissions does it take to get a 9.9 or 10? 

Does someone tell the grader this customer does a ridiculous amount of business with us so make sure you find a 9.9 or two in that submission? Or is it the grader was in a great mood that day (another strong reason weed should be legal)?  Is there a quota (a month by month totals could be very revealing but then we would know how much business they're doing - never gonna happen)?

From a business standpoint, how else would you reward a long time customer (besides the standard discount) or give the pesents a glimmer of hope?

6,000-7,000 total subs.

6 10s

5 9.9s.

4,500 or so 9.8s.

Probably 20-30 9.9s (and maybe 10s) sitting in 9.8 slabs.

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The gambler's fallacy is the belief that the chances of something happening with a fixed probability become higher or lower as the process is repeated. People who commit the gambler's fallacy believe that past events affect the probability of something happening in the future

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1 hour ago, Bird said:

The gambler's fallacy is the belief that the chances of something happening with a fixed probability become higher or lower as the process is repeated. People who commit the gambler's fallacy believe that past events affect the probability of something happening in the future

...also known as the Monte Carlo fallacy or the fallacy of the maturity of chances, is the mistaken belief that, if something happens more frequently than normal during a given period, it will happen less frequently in the future (or vice versa)

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1 hour ago, Bird said:

The gambler's fallacy is the belief that the chances of something happening with a fixed probability become higher or lower as the process is repeated. People who commit the gambler's fallacy believe that past events affect the probability of something happening in the future

Not being confrontational, but wouldn't gamble's fallacy be when talking about something that is purely random, such as rolling a pair of dice.  With a grader who could feel pressure to give a 9.9 occasionally, or (more likely) pressure to never give it, could not that also be a variable, and one that is near impossible to calculate?

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What I really want to know is what is the difference between a 9.9 and 10?  You could say that any 9.8 was really a 9.9 if nether has visible flaws.  a 10 being perfect of course, but then again how many perfect books are in 9.8 slabs anyway?  The whole concept is ridiculous.  I have noticed that chromium covers and really hard paper stocks seem to fare much better, but again there's no real distinction between why any one copy beats another.  I also found it funny reading the pre-screen cgc rules recently that of course, you can't select 9.9 or higher as a pre-screen grade.

 

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3 minutes ago, 90sChild said:

 but again there's no real distinction between why any one copy beats another. 
 

If I come off as rude here, nothing personal, but...

just because you cannot spot the distinctions doesn't mean that they aren't there. 

There is a difference between a 9.9 and a 9.8. That doesn't mean that 9.9 books won't end up in 9.8 slabs, or that 9.8 books won't end up in 9.6 slabs. That's not justification for your failure to differentiate between the highest three grades. 

 

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10 minutes ago, newshane said:

If I come off as rude here, nothing personal, but...

just because you cannot spot the distinctions doesn't mean that they aren't there. 

There is a difference between a 9.9 and a 9.8. That doesn't mean that 9.9 books won't end up in 9.8 slabs, or that 9.8 books won't end up in 9.6 slabs. That's not justification for your failure to differentiate between the highest three grades. 

 

This is very true.

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9 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

Probably 20-30 9.9s (and maybe 10s) sitting in 9.8 slabs.

Any proof for this?  

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10 hours ago, 1950's war comics said:

i have heard a story  of a big time sports card collectors re-submitting the exact same Michael Jordan rookie 20 times at $150 per pop before he finally got the grade he wanted

Didn't a (sort of) similar circumstance happen years ago with an FF112 (I think) that, after multiple CPR's, got a 9.8?    

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