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[piper]

39 minutes ago, Comicopolis said:

Caulfield seems too old to be Clea, for me. But she's a great actor so I hope she stick around.

+1

Also, Clea always seemed kinder and more altruistic than what we have seen from Caulfield’s character so far.

[Bosco685]

 

55 minutes ago, Comicopolis said:

Caulfield seems too old to be Clea, for me. But she's a great actor so I hope she stick around.

15 minutes ago, piper said:

+1

Also, Clea always seemed kinder and more altruistic than what we have seen from Caulfield’s character so far.

 

I think with the acting to convey her character as a controlled contributor to this mystery world, I'm not sure we actually have witnessed Emma Caulfield. She's 47 - not 60.

 

[fastballspecial]

54 minutes ago, TupennyConan said:

If the audience demands superhero beat em ups, Marvel made about 25 features of em. 

There is an expectations with Marvel shows. Currently this one fails that. Not saying it wont get 
better, but currently some are just left wondering what are they doing here? I realize the No More 
Mutants arc is possible and I hate that because Marvel only did that arc because the X-men did 
belong to them anymore.

 

[Gatsby77]

53 minutes ago, TupennyConan said:

The complaints don't seem to be that the show fails its premise but rather the premise fails the show.

I don't respect the complaints. The premise, like the show which executes on it, is terrific.

Exactly.

The sheer audacity of Marvel having the confidence to produce a slow-burn mystery series featuring Wanda & Vision as a 1950s sitcom couple is mind-blowing.

Meanwhile, DC's over here trying to figure out how to do a solo Flash feature film and reboot Superman.

I truly don't understand how we've not had two solid Flash films already, with a third on the way. He's a *far* better character than Thor or Ant-Man.

[piper]

I would be incredibly bored with this show if they had gone the villain of the week approach.  I'm glad they are trying something different.

[bentbryan]

So far I dig  the show. The creatively is a breath of fresh air. I’m also a fan of looking out for all the Easter Eggs as it gives the series dimension and purpose to really focus on what’s happening. 

[Callaway29]

I find it hard to believe if the show stayed “as-is” from now until the end that people would be satisfied... It def. needs to get kicked up a notch. Not saying I need superhero fights and a stereotypical villain but...something of interest needs to, and will, happen... 

[the blob]

They're building. I'm trying to explain to my A.D.D. (not clinically) boys (9 and 15) that they're going to get there eventually. what i find interesting is that on facebook comments for the show, women seem to like it (much more than the men). This is a good thing. I hope it means that those non-comic nerd women will stay with the show when it goes in the direction we expect it to, where it is going to appeal more to male comic nerds. I get the irritation with it being too campy. Us GenExers and Boomers grew up on these shows. But, frankly, they're a little hard to watch now. I tried to get my son (9) to watch an episode of Gilligan's island yesterday and he was kind of "WTF dad?"

[Bosco685]

2 hours ago, Gatsby77 said:

Exactly.

The sheer audacity of Marvel having the confidence to produce a slow-burn mystery series featuring Wanda & Vision as a 1950s sitcom couple is mind-blowing.

Meanwhile, DC's over here trying to figure out how to do a solo Flash feature film and reboot Superman.

I truly don't understand how we've not had two solid Flash films already, with a third on the way. He's a *far* better character than Thor or Ant-Man.

I'm really liking what we experiencing thus far, clearly knowing bigger reveals are coming.

But how does disappointment in the show leading to once again calling out WB/DC? Where does one fit in with the other? They don't.

Those not overly excited yet - if you go back and read their responses to other comic book shows (including Dark Horse's Umbrella Academy) seem to have the same initial response. So where did DC come into this logically?

[Bosco685]

18 minutes ago, the blob said:

They're building. I'm trying to explain to my A.D.D. (not clinically) boys (9 and 15) that they're going to get there eventually. what i find interesting is that on facebook comments for the show, women seem to like it (much more than the men). This is a good thing. I hope it means that those non-comic nerd women will stay with the show when it goes in the direction we expect it to, where it is going to appeal more to male comic nerds. I get the irritation with it being too campy. Us GenExers and Boomers grew up on these shows. But, frankly, they're a little hard to watch now. I tried to get my son (9) to watch an episode of Gilligan's island yesterday and he was kind of "WTF dad?"

This is the issue with viewers getting so use to big, event-based productions. They have little patience for gradual buildup.

This show is sticking to its guns easing us into a bigger reveal. I'm great with that. Don't try and appease the demands for game-changing scenes in every episode.

[Bosco685]

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Fans have been treated to some light fun in the first two of WandaVision's sitcom parodies, but don't expect them all to be that way. When asked by Variety about what changes in her process when the show enters a new decade, Olsen describes how American TV comedies became more cynical over time, something that influenced the show's approach to humor:

 

"The '70s women were allowed - it was almost like there was a relaxation of even just women and social behavior, so that would affect their voices and the tone that they can take, instead of it being all so kind of higher and level. And so the '70s, even though it's this really strange, Brady Bunch, aspirational time in this sitcom land, women were still able to kinda have a little bit more control or something, something that just grounded them a bit more in their voice. And then as we got into the '80s, the teachable moments and how sincere everything was, that was just really funny. And then as we move into the '00s and the 2010s, comedy, the sitcom, becomes really cynical. The humor, like Malcolm in the Middle and Modern Family, becomes incredibly cynical, and that's what we found comforting, for whatever reason, as a society. And so it was just fun, when we were in this boot camp, to kind of, not only just chart the physical changes, you know as tools... but what was comedy for history of that time. Like the fact that Brady Bunch is the result of Vietnam, or Rosemary's Baby the film and Brady Bunch is on television, it doesn't make any sense to me. But for whatever reason that's what the consumer was watching at home."

 

Elsewhere in the interview, Olsen discusses her approach to playing Wanda in this shifting sitcom landscape, which she points out is distinct from how she has been developed in the MCU so far. According to Olsen, her character in WandaVision is preoccupied with keeping her identity hidden from her neighbors and appearing as a regular member of the community, rather than with anything that happened in the films. She identifies the moments of tension between sitcom-world and the larger MCU, when the truth threatens to invade whatever fiction she is wrapped up in, as the most interesting moments for her to perform.

 

[TupennyConan]

3 hours ago, Buzzetta said:

  I am guessing that she has been captured and is being studied and they are trying to wake her up or call her out of whatever reality she created for herself. 

This appears to be a good beat. 

[the blob]

These supposedly cost $25 million per episode. I have no idea what they're spending the money on though.

[Bosco685]

[bpc3qh]

I think it's definitely building to something similar to House of M and its progeny, but I'm willing to wait, and if it doesn't reach that endpoint until the end of the show, or even until Multiverse of Madness, that is fine with me. Slow burn, y'all, slow burn.

[the blob]

It reminds me a little of when Loki (who it turns out was being impersonated by the Archangel Gabriel) would stick the Supernatural boys in some TV pocket universe, but I doubt they're going to try to tie in the Loki show that way. This is not Marvel Loki's style.

[Comicopolis]

It will all be worth it when they do Married With Children.

[fantastic_four]

I've enjoyed it so far, yet still agree that if this didn't involved already-established characters I wouldn't have made it through the first episode.  It's OK, but it's building upon what preceded it in the MCU so far, and you could EASILY pick two dozen of the best episodes of the Van Dyke Show or Bewitched that are more enjoyable to watch or re-watch than these two episodes.

[Randall Dowling]

WARNING:  If you haven't seen the first 2 episodes of the show, do NOT read this post.

So, I just watched the first 2 episodes again and I want to underline a couple points (forgive me if any of this has already been raised)-

Spoiler

• The commercial for the stark toaster in the first episode is the first show of color with the red light blinking, rhythmically.  The sound is that of a metronome and I believe it implies hypnosis.  Toward the end, the red light blinking diverges from the consistent metronome sound.  The tagline of the commercial is "Forget the past, this is your future".  A sort of programming structure for hypnosis.
• The first episode is somewhat formatted after a 1950s sitcom and the second seems to be more like a 60s sitcom (although it feels more like early 60s and late 60s to me).  It seems like we can expect the next episode to be in color and formatted as a 70s sitcom and so forth
• In the second episode, when Wanda hears the noise outside for the first time, she goes out and finds the red helicopter.  The discovery seems to cause her distress and some confusion.  As she looks behind her at the upper level of the home and an attic window above its seems as if there is something up there that worries her.  
• The thing that breaks her focus is the sudden emergence of Agnes (Agnes always seems to appear whenever Wanda is distressed or struggling).  The conversation with Agnes is about how Wanda needs to behave correctly to be accepted by the "Queen Bee" figure of Dottie.  Dottie seems to be assessing compliance and dictating how they should behave.  Wanda is continually behaving incorrectly.
• The commercial in the second episode is for Strucker watches has a similar emphasis on the ticking of the watch which is not rhythmic but rather increasing, almost like an alarm is about to go off.  The tagline is "Strucker- he'll make time, for you".
• At the end of the magic show as they're accepting the award and people are clapping, Geraldine asks "One second I'm back stage and the next, I'm in a dark cubby hole.  How'd you do it?", to which Vision replies "Oh, a magician never reveals his secrets, he leaves that to his assistant." gesturing to Wanda who finishes with "And she's not talking."  A sort of refusal to comply with an attempt to get Wanda to reveal her secret. 
• When Wanda and Vision hear the sound, they go outside and hear the manhole cover as the beekeeper comes up from underground.  Another hidden location that seems disturbing to Wanda.
• They live in a different house in the second episode.

Yeah, I geeked out on this show... don't judge me.  

[TupennyConan]

The mastication joke wasn't welcome. You suck really bad, Hollywood. 

I suppose it will progress, devolve, rather, into more of the same.