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[theCapraAegagrus]

So, I'm looking into buying a Thor #126 (preferably CGC'd, but might go for a raw issue) and noticed that almost all of them are printed by Arvel comics.

Are there specific time periods where the wraps are consistently this bad? It's a huge turn-off for me.

[bababooey]

If if bothers you I suggest you buy a copy with a properly aligned cover.  

[theCapraAegagrus]

6 minutes ago, bababooey said:

If if bothers you I suggest you buy a copy with a properly aligned cover.  

Additional question: If the cover appears to be perfect, is it likely to have been pressed?

I ask, because I've seen a couple of nice raw copies, but they are nowhere near the same condition as the encapsulated ones.

[JWKyle]

There is a Thor 126 cgc 8.0 in the sales area now with a beautiful wrap

[lizards2]

I'm probably not as picky about that flaw, but it appears about 1/4 to a 1/3 of the copies listed on eBay have decent wraps.  But you're correct in that there appears to be a lot of miswraps on that particular issue number.

[theCapraAegagrus]

16 minutes ago, JWKyle said:

There is a Thor 126 cgc 8.0 in the sales area now with a beautiful wrap

I'm looking to score in the 9.2+ range, if slabbed. "Grail"-type stuff.

There are some okay ones out there. The 9.0+s seem to have pretty bad wraps. I saw the HA auctioned a CGC 9.8 in 2012 that has a very bad wrap IMO. White PQ, though...

Is this not an era quality problem, then? Is is mostly on an issue-to-issue basis..?

[JWKyle]

2 minutes ago, TwoPiece said:

I'm looking to score in the 9.2+ range, if slabbed. "Grail"-type stuff.

There are some okay ones out there. The 9.0+s seem to have pretty bad wraps. I saw the HA auctioned a CGC 9.8 in 2012 that has a very bad wrap IMO. White PQ, though...

Is this not an era quality problem, then? Is is mostly on an issue-to-issue basis..?

i think it's both back them if the covers were miswrapped they just let it go and corrected it on the fly as they were making the issue. My copy is a  IARVEL issue

[oldrover]

2 hours ago, JWKyle said:

i think it's both back them if the covers were miswrapped they just let it go and corrected it on the fly as they were making the issue. My copy is a  IARVEL issue

Pronounced “YAR-vell”.

[mysterio]

X-Men #25 is terrible, usually a 2 cent arvel. 

[lizards2]

51 minutes ago, oldrover said:

3 hours ago, JWKyle said:

Pronounced “YAR-vell”.

[Gotham Kid]

My copy a few years ago

[theCapraAegagrus]

1 minute ago, Gotham Kid said:

My copy a few years ago

[Chaz G.]

2 minutes ago, Gotham Kid said:

My copy a few years ago

Sweet book!

[lizards2]

4 hours ago, Gotham Kid said:

My copy a few years ago

Terrible mis-wrap.  I don't know how you could stand to own that piece of carp.

[01TheDude]

 

mine is raw and ok other than the sub crease

[The Lions Den]

12 hours ago, TwoPiece said:

So, I'm looking into buying a Thor #126 (preferably CGC'd, but might go for a raw issue) and noticed that almost all of them are printed by Arvel comics.

Are there specific time periods where the wraps are consistently this bad? It's a huge turn-off for me.

This does seem to be a fairly common occurrence with many Silver Age Marvels. I suppose that's what makes looking for one that's aligned properly so much fun...   

[MGsimba77]

14 hours ago, TwoPiece said:

Is this not an era quality problem, then? Is is mostly on an issue-to-issue basis..?

Yeah the ARVEL ones are silvers from all I've seen. Bronze is notorious not so much for arvels but miswraps or just having a substantial white border on the spine as an IH 182 that I have but deleted the picture. I can only guess Marvel allowed this for financial reasons? Maybe would have been too costly for them to discard the ugly wraps and replace with better looking copies?

[The Lions Den]

On 4/13/2019 at 12:43 AM, MGsimba77 said:

Yeah the ARVEL ones are silvers from all I've seen. Bronze is notorious not so much for arvels but miswraps or just having a substantial white border on the spine as an IH 182 that I have but deleted the picture. I can only guess Marvel allowed this for financial reasons? Maybe would have been too costly for them to discard the ugly wraps and replace with better looking copies?

Bingo...

[lizards2]

5 hours ago, The Lions Den said:

On ‎4‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 9:43 PM, MGsimba77 said:

Yeah the ARVEL ones are silvers from all I've seen. Bronze is notorious not so much for arvels but miswraps or just having a substantial white border on the spine as an IH 182 that I have but deleted the picture. I can only guess Marvel allowed this for financial reasons? Maybe would have been too costly for them to discard the ugly wraps and replace with better looking copies?

Bingo...

Mass produced media - a more likely idea is that no one cared at the time.

Edited April 15, 2019 by lizards2
greggy stains

[The Lions Den]

27 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

Mass produced media - a more likely idea is that know one cared at the time.

Absolutely. I used to buy a lot of them back then, and I didn't care either...