This tiny crease OK for a 9.2? 1 1

[Westy Steve]

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

[theCapraAegagrus]

Sure.

[James J Johnson]

11 minutes ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

Not the norm for 9.2.

[joeypost]

Yes, if it is the only defect. 

[Black_Adam]

To me that's no better than a 9.0 but based on some of the grades I saw in the March Madness grading contest from CGC...sure, it's a 9.2.

 

 

[jbud73]

I was discussing this with a few people at the last Berkeley Con.  As Joe said, 9.2 books HAVE DEFECTS Think about it, there are FIVE grading levels above 9.2.  on the book in question that is a very small color breaking stress, which is probably = to 4-5 color breaking spine ticks, which is consistent with a lot of books in 9.2 holders IF the rest of the book is clean.  The problem comes in when people see one defect on a book and then consider that defect as acceptable WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER DEFECTS on a book, this is where consistency breaks down and frustration sets in.

[The Lions Den]

9.0 - 9.2...

[jharvey]

I've seen a CGC 9.4 with a nearly identical crease.

 

Edited April 15, 2019 by jharvey

[Mystafo]

Kinda like 9.6's with around 5 or 6 tiny, color breaking spine tics...seen QUITE a few of those in my limited experience.

[lizards2]

1 hour ago, jharvey said:

I've seen a CGC 9.4 with a nearly identical crease.

 

 

48 minutes ago, Mystafo said:

Kinda like 9.6's with around 5 or 6 tiny, color breaking spine tics...seen QUITE a few of those in my limited experience.

Ditto on both accounts, plus the 9.2s.

To me they are probably 9.0s, but hey, CGC it.

[Brian48]

3 hours ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

I've seen those on 9.4s.

[Brian48]

Look at the top and bottom right corners.

https://comics.ha.com/itm/bronze-age-1970-1979-/conan-the-barbarian-24-twin-cities-pedigree-marvel-1973-cgc-nm-94-white-pages/a/121203-10157.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515#

[Bomber-Bob]

5 hours ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

Personally, I would not want to own a book graded 9.2 with an obvious corner crease. During some eras of CGC grading, a book with a corner crease like this would have received an 8.5. 

[The Lions Den]

34 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said:

Personally, I would not want to own a book graded 9.2 with an obvious corner crease. During some eras of CGC grading, a book with a corner crease like this would have received an 8.5. 

It doesn't bother me so much if it's on a 9.0 or a 9.2, but that Daredevil #168 makes me a little nervous. The rest of that book must be a 9.8...  

[c_mkv]

Top right corner of my X14

[Westy Steve]

Thanks for the great feedback, guys.  There is hope yet for those of us who shove our books into the bag. :)  I was under the impression that you couldn't go about a 9.0 without that defect, but I guess if the rest of the book is a standout, CGC gives it a little bump for being so nice.  At least that's the logic I'm going to apply in my head.

Steve

[Bomber-Bob]

8 hours ago, c_mkv said:

Top right corner of my X14

This book is otherwise gorgeaous and the corner crease is very small, almost tiny. I'm fine with tiny corner creases getting a 9.2. Size matters !!!!!

[theCapraAegagrus]

17 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said:

...Size matters !!!!!

[WoWitHurts]

18 hours ago, Westy Steve said:

Hey guys,

I was looking at pictures on ebay trying to get a feel for how a book I own would be graded.  Then I saw this on a CGC 9.2 book.  This kind of corner web/crease is allowed on an otherwise nice book for a 9.2?

 

 

To me this is not a 9.2. I use Overstreet Grade definitions and I am pretty sure this is not allowed. 8.5 at best IMO.

[Black_Adam]

2 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said:

This book is otherwise gorgeaous and the corner crease is very small, almost tiny. I'm fine with tiny corner creases getting a 9.2. Size matters !!!!!

And I'm not sure if (as far as CGC graders are concerned) the age of the book is supposed to influence the grade, but I would find a tiny corner crease as shown more acceptable on a 9.2 from the early Silver Age than a similarly-graded comic from the Bronze Age.