More Fun 73, COLOR TOUCH w/ Blue Label 0

[HuddyBee]

So I stumbled across this on eBay the other day. How is it that the comic has minor color touch yet has a blue label, and isn't labeled as "restored." Seems very odd.

The description of the item even lists it as "unrestored," although that is obviously not the case, but it might be "unrestored" according to CGC. I dunno. What's going on here?

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/More-Fun-Comics-73-CGC-2-0-GD-DC-1941-1st-App-ORIGIN-of-Aquaman/382526487289?hash=item59105afaf9:g:IycAAOSwrVRbVl2m

[comicdonna]

This happens a lot with GA books, where the CT is limited to a small amount, and doesn't affect/improve the grade of the comic.  

[theCapraAegagrus]

[The Lions Den]

All I would ask is that if the color touch doesn't affect the grade, why not simply remove it and eliminate any doubt about awarding the book a blue label?   I'm somewhat mystified by this decision...

[D84]

I've seen this throughout the years on golden age books, and it really bothers me.

But, even though it doesn't have a restored label, I would not trust a seller who lists this book as unrestored.

[HuddyBee]

4 hours ago, D84 said:

I've seen this throughout the years on golden age books, and it really bothers me.

But, even though it doesn't have a restored label, I would not trust a seller who lists this book as unrestored.

It bothers me too. If a book is restored, it's restored. Even if its very minor it's still restored and ought to be treated as a restored book. I think this comes down to just CGC being too lenient on their grading of GA books.

[sacentaur]

5 hours ago, D84 said:

I've seen this throughout the years on golden age books, and it really bothers me.

But, even though it doesn't have a restored label, I would not trust a seller who lists this book as unrestored.

Agreed, I would never do business with those guys (they’ve been talked about here on the boards before).

[The Lions Den]

Actually, now that I look at this more closely, it appears that a fair amount of color touch on this book has already been removed. Given the fragile nature of the book, maybe they didn't want to risk disfiguring the cover even further by trying to remove any remaining color touch. Still, it's hard for me to look at this book and not be slightly disillusioned, both in the label designation and the asking price...

[Gotham Kid]

ct to cover, blue label

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DETECTIVE-COMICS-35-CGC-5-0-1940-Batman-w-Hypodermic-Needle-c-45-auto-Splash/152924534129?hash=item239b033571:g:kPEAAOSw~4taVXAo

Edited April 22, 2019 by Gotham Kid

[Lazyboy]

4 hours ago, HuddyBee said:

It bothers me too. If a book is restored, it's restored. Even if its very minor it's still restored and ought to be treated as a restored book. I think this comes down to just CGC being too lenient on their grading of GA books.

It's a concession CGC had to make at the beginning so they wouldn't immediately fail.

[Dark Knight]

2 hours ago, Gotham Kid said:

ct to cover, blue label

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DETECTIVE-COMICS-35-CGC-5-0-1940-Batman-w-Hypodermic-Needle-c-45-auto-Splash/152924534129?hash=item239b033571:g:kPEAAOSw~4taVXAo

Nice book, but for $95k!? 

[Gotham Kid]

1 hour ago, Dark Knight said:

Nice book, but for $95k!? 

agree but a few years from now that asking price will be its fmv

Edited April 23, 2019 by Gotham Kid

[James J Johnson]

4 hours ago, Dark Knight said:

Nice book, but for $95k!? 

   $95,000, the seller asks! For this!  

[HuddyBee]

What bothers me is, how can I trust a company to find and identify restoration, if their finding of it doesn't qualify it as restored? Heck, if cgc isn't going to give it a restored grade, what guarantee is there that any of their "unrestored" books aren't restored. 

[Dark Knight]

21 hours ago, Gotham Kid said:

22 hours ago, Dark Knight said:

Nice book, but for $95k!? 

agree but a few years from now that asking price will be its fmv

Historically, yes it appears that way, but no way to predict the future.  I believe 2-3 years ago pre-robin tecs were selling for record highs.  Just last year and maybe this year, they came back down to earth.

[James J Johnson]

10 minutes ago, Dark Knight said:

I believe 2-3 years ago pre-robin tecs were selling for record highs. 

That's foolish. Pre-Robin Tec prices should be suppressed without Robin featured on the cover delivering the corner shock pose. 

[James J Johnson]

4 hours ago, HuddyBee said:

What bothers me is, how can I trust a company to find and identify restoration, if their finding of it doesn't qualify it as restored? Heck, if cgc isn't going to give it a restored grade, what guarantee is there that any of their "unrestored" books aren't restored. 

All restored books are identified in the label comments. Even if restored and blue labeled, as in some rare cases like this.

[HuddyBee]

2 hours ago, James J Johnson said:

All restored books are identified in the label comments. Even if restored and blue labeled, as in some rare cases like this.

I realize that, but it's not like CGC hasn't failed to list defects in the label before.

[James J Johnson]

1 hour ago, HuddyBee said:

I realize that, but it's not like CGC hasn't failed to list defects in the label before.

I understand. But restoration isn't a defect. Unless figuring trim as restoration, in which case it's more of a defect than resto, as part of the book is missing, regardless of it being intentional or not.

[The Lions Den]

Since they expanded their restoration guidelines and recently upgraded their holder and label, it would have been the perfect time for CGC to modify this practice as well. I see it as a missed opportunity. Ah well, what might have been...