adamstrange Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Point Five said: If this cover was done around the same time as Crime Reporter 2 and 3, to me that’s an even stronger argument that it’s not by Baker. CR 2 and 3 already have those dynamic, fluid figures in an environment with depth, and pick out a split second in the narrative action. The Saint 4 has a formal composition more like a movie poster, and the figures are well-drawn but (comparatively) stiffer and more formal, like some of the mid-40s Chesler covers. It’s of course subjective, but to me the sensibilities are way different. Lee Ames did other covers for Avon and he has a way of drawing pretty women that is appealing. Murderous Gangsters 1 and Samson and Delilah are two examples. I mention this because if it wasn't Baker drawing The Saint #4 it had to be someone who drew pretty women well because we like the cover. https://www.comics.org/issue/66299/cover/4/ https://www.comics.org/issue/585858/cover/4/ I just did a search on GCD for Ames and he was also at Fiction House/Iger Shop coincident with Baker. GCD even lists two stories where there was a collaboration between them. https://www.comics.org/penciller/name/lee ames/sort/alpha/ I don't have those issues and I'm curious how they detected the collaboration but I definitely would want to take a close look at the stories they supposedly worked on. A superficial resemblance could be due to Ames being inspired by Baker or, if they knew each other, an assist by Baker. The dominant hand, to my eyes, is most likely Ames. Edited May 17, 2019 by adamstrange Joshua33, szav and Point Five 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Joshua33 said: In other news... we're still missing GOING STEADY 13 AND 14. Does anyone have or know somebody who had these 2 issues? Let's get em posted and reorganize this thing into a finished product. Okay, I have a 14 that I'm going to take a picture of. Try to get that soon. I have been doing a bit of the heavy lifting here. I use to have a 13, one of the first Bakers I ever purchased for $5.00. eventually sold because I thought the grade was too low and I'd find a better copy. So much for that idea. Joshua33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua33 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 53 minutes ago, sagii said: ...and Wedding Bells 16 to be added to the accounted for list Thank you!!! Missed that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua33 Posted May 17, 2019 Author Share Posted May 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Lee Ames did other covers for Avon and he has a way of drawing pretty women that is appealing. Murderous Gangsters 1 and Samson and Delilah are two examples. I mention this because if it wasn't Baker drawing The Saint #4 it had to be someone who drew pretty women well because we like the cover. https://www.comics.org/issue/66299/cover/4/ https://www.comics.org/issue/585858/cover/4/ I just did a search on GCD for Ames and he was also at Fiction House/Iger Shop coincident with Baker. GCD even lists two stories where there was a collaboration between them. https://www.comics.org/penciller/name/lee ames/sort/alpha/ I don't have those issues and I'm curious how they detected the collaboration but I definitely would to take a close look at the stories they supposed worked on. A superficial resemblance could be due to Ames being inspired by Baker or, if they knew each other, an assist by Baker. The dominant hand, to my eyes, is most likely Ames. Great research. Would love to dig into that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montezuma Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 pmpknface, comicnoir and Joshua33 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricksneatstuff Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Joshua33 said: In other news... we're still missing GOING STEADY 13 AND 14. Does anyone have or know somebody who had these 2 issues? Let's get em posted and reorganize this thing into a finished product. Going Steady 13 is the only Baker book I looked for and never had or was offered a copy of. Edited May 17, 2019 by Ricksneatstuff Joshua33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 On 5/10/2019 at 10:45 AM, Yorick said: Add the rest of the Going Steady covers too. On 5/15/2019 at 2:10 PM, Joshua33 said: OOPS! Nobody caught these? Looks like we're missing Gonig Steady 12,13 and 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yorick Posted May 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2019 FINE. Going Steady 13. pmpknface, Ricksneatstuff, szav and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua33 Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 Thanks @Yorick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 I've been gone for the month. Can I see an updated list of what is needed? I don't have time to go thru every page and make a list...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua33 Posted June 3, 2019 Author Share Posted June 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Tri-ColorBrian said: I've been gone for the month. Can I see an updated list of what is needed? I don't have time to go thru every page and make a list...LOL It's all covered. Just trying to find the time to download all the shots and put them in alpha numeric order. Robot Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Joshua33 said: It's all covered. Just trying to find the time to download all the shots and put them in alpha numeric order. OK, great. Thanks. Less work for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocHntr Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Fun thread to revisit. Was the Photo Catalog ever organized differently somewhere, or is this thread the final compilation? Also, question about Vooda 20. I know it’s comprised primarily of reprint material from Seven Seas 6 and the art was “re-worked” to reflect a jungle theme (and conform to comics code). The cover seems to be a swipe of the splash page from Seven Seas 6, but the face is different. Did Baker do the modifications to the art himself, or was it done by someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 8:37 AM, CrocHntr said: Fun thread to revisit. Was the Photo Catalog ever organized differently somewhere, or is this thread the final compilation? Also, question about Vooda 20. I know it’s comprised primarily of reprint material from Seven Seas 6 and the art was “re-worked” to reflect a jungle theme (and conform to comics code). The cover seems to be a swipe of the splash page from Seven Seas 6, but the face is different. Did Baker do the modifications to the art himself, or was it done by someone else? Looks like someone swiping Baker on the cover, don't think he had any involvement, but that's just my opinion based on looking at it. The hands and several other features on the Vooda cover look nothing like Baker to me. Did Baker do anything at all with Ajax? comicnoir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/20/2022 at 3:14 PM, szav said: Looks like someone swiping Baker on the cover, don't think he had any involvement, but that's just my opinion based on looking at it. The hands and several other features on the Vooda cover look nothing like Baker to me. Did Baker do anything at all with Ajax? Ajax art was supplied by the Iger shop, where Matt had worked in the 40s. I have not heard that he came back to work there in the 50s and I don't think it's likely. szav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocHntr Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Thanks. That’s what I assumed. Mostly a baker reprint, but modifications to the baker art done in house by someone on staff. Appreciate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 5/9/2019 at 11:08 AM, Robot Man said: Very bad inking on this one. Perhaps young Al Feldstein? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 5/13/2019 at 4:06 AM, SteveDuin said: Surely this isn't Baker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 5/12/2019 at 4:03 PM, Ricksneatstuff said: This is a constant topic of debate but I definitely believe that he was at least a contributor to this classic cover. This seems to be the cover that gets the most varied opinions. I think this is Baker on pencils. The male figure in the foreground is Baker-esque. The woman could be Kamen or Baker. Ricksneatstuff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 In his Squa Tront interview, I believe Jack Kamen claimed that Baker pencilled the main figure on Brenda Starr #5. Others filled in the background. Not my copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...