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Christopher Nolan's TENET (717/20)
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9 hours ago, Comicopolis said:

For those who've seen the movie - did you wear a mask the whole time you were in the theatre?

I took it off to eat my popcorn. Social Distancing was well in effect. Seats were spaced well apart.

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12 minutes ago, kimik said:

The one benefit from COVID for the movie industry - the theatres are probably the cleanest they will ever be.

Which is pretty sad when you consider how fast theaters started posting videos of much stronger cleaning practices. Like they woke up once the bottom line took a significant hit.

Pre-COVID: Extreme cleaning

COVID: Disinfectant sprayers and stronger air filters.

 

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I actually stopped going to some theatres since they did such a bad job of cleaning between show times. Is it too much to ask for them to sweep out/mop up each row to ensure I am not stepping in the previous person's drink and popcorn? When I used to work as an usher for the Edmonton Oilers at the old Rexall Arena, we had to inspect our sections before fans were let in just in case there were any issues. I only found one once - they did not fully mop up spilled pop under a chair.

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if even the top # is in the ballpark, put WB's Tenet decision in the category of expensive failed experiment

Last weekend demonstrated most moviegoers prefer to stay away from theaters during a pandemic. Even after fudging the weekend box office with previous box office, Tenet [TENET] proved too embarrassingly low for Warner Bros. to break down the actual box office. Without the real numbers for opening weekend, it’s hard to project how Tenet will do during its second weekend. There’s some good news as Tenet will play at Drive-In theaters in the previously shutout Los Angeles County as well as at newly opened theaters in neighboring Orange County. Tenet is likely to gross anywhere from $5 to $9 million.

 

 

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20 hours ago, paperheart said:

if even the top # is in the ballpark, put WB's Tenet decision in the category of expensive failed experiment

Last weekend demonstrated most moviegoers prefer to stay away from theaters during a pandemic. Even after fudging the weekend box office with previous box office, Tenet [TENET] proved too embarrassingly low for Warner Bros. to break down the actual box office. Without the real numbers for opening weekend, it’s hard to project how Tenet will do during its second weekend. There’s some good news as Tenet will play at Drive-In theaters in the previously shutout Los Angeles County as well as at newly opened theaters in neighboring Orange County. Tenet is likely to gross anywhere from $5 to $9 million.

 

 

WB's decision to move WW1984 confirms Tenet's US failure

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Hollywood’s Tenet Experiment Failed

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Christopher Nolan’s Tenet was supposed to be a boon for movie theaters, a light in the darkness after the coronavirus pandemic shut down cinemas for months. Here was an original film from a beloved director, one of the biggest titles of our postponed summer-movie season—surely this would be enough to lure people back to the big screen. Around the world, that’s proven largely true: Over three weeks, Tenet has made more than $207 million globally, a healthy number given the circumstances. But in the United States, the Warner Bros. film has grossed less than $30 million since August 31—a number so low that it’s scaring other major movies off the release schedule. Now the question isn’t whether theaters can return to normalcy, but whether they can survive this pandemic at all.

 

Tenet’s lackluster overall performance has started a domino effect. Wonder Woman 1984, a much-anticipated superhero sequel, bumped its release date from October 2 to Christmas, a clear sign that its studio, Warner Bros., was shaken by Tenet’s underwhelming box-office receipts. Universal’s buzzy horror remake Candyman was also delayed—until sometime in 2021. October is now devoid of tentpole releases, and November has only two: Marvel’s Black Widow (set for November 6) and the latest James Bond film, No Time to Die (November 20). Assuming those dates hold—and they may very well not—U.S. cinemas now have two months to keep their doors open with Tenet as the only blockbuster on offer.

 

When Warner Bros. announced its final plans for Tenet in July, I wrote that Hollywood was prioritizing worldwide grosses and treating American viewers as an afterthought. After all, many theater chains across the U.S. remained closed, as they had since March. But most states jumped at the promise that Tenet symbolized, and 44 out of 50 allowed their cinemas to resume operations, albeit with capacity restrictions. Against all odds, Tenet got a wide U.S. release, showing in nearly 3,000 theaters this past weekend. Yes, cinemas in major markets such as New York and Los Angeles remained closed, but after Tenet made a reported $20 million two weekends ago, the hope was that it’d post a similar number last week—a sign that audiences were returning to the movies en masse.

 

Instead, it seems Tenet has only been enough to attract die-hard film fans—people like myself who were happy to rent a whole theater to themselves just to enjoy a movie again. The shiny $20 million number that Warner Bros. reported for Tenet’s opening Labor Day weekend turns out to have been a heavily padded figure. The film actually made just $9.4 million over the three-day weekend; the rest of the grosses came from early preview screenings and sales in Canada. In its second weekend, Tenet made just $6.7 million. Normally, a drop of only 29 percent would be regarded by studios as a sign of excellent word of mouth. But Tenet cost $200 million to make and needs to gross more than double that to break even; Warner Bros. might be able to eke that number out worldwide over the next few months, but very little of it will come from the U.S.

 

Tenet was the cinema industry’s guinea pig—a way for studios to gauge audience willingness to return to theaters in every country amid a pandemic. The reality is that most of the world has handled the coronavirus far better than America has: China averaged 26 daily cases over the past two weeks, Japan 543, and Canada 681. Given that Hollywood can no longer count on one of its biggest markets—the U.S.—it’s hard to know what course studios should chart next. Releasing movies on demand, even at a marquee price, to try to recoup costs isn’t workable for a film as expensive as Tenet or Wonder Woman 1984. Disney recently attempted a hybrid approach for Mulan, putting it in theaters internationally while charging Disney+ subscribers $30 to watch it at home. Its opening in China was underwhelming ($23 million), and although Disney hasn’t provided official data on streaming grosses, industry estimates have them pegged at around $33 million over Labor Day—not nearly enough for a movie budgeted at $200 million.

 

If things were already looking bleak for American cinemas, the immediate future now looks catastrophic. This past weekend, the total domestic box office was less than $15 million—Indiewire estimates that sum amounts to $5,000 per theater, which isn’t enough to pay for basic operating costs. As studios grow more skittish about releasing major films, those numbers will only dwindle. Tenet was supposed to be the industry’s lifeline; for now, Hollywood has nothing else to pin its hopes on.

 

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And this is all fine. Because the box office doesn’t define what a great movie is. Box office failure or not, Tenet will recoup more at home release. And it’s not like Nolan is going to get a smaller budget for his next film, everyone knows it was ballsy to release a big movie during COVID. And many of us greatly appreciate the studios risk and sacrifice. They could have said, we are going to delay so we can make more money later. Tenet is a gift right now so go see it in theaters!

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On 9/9/2020 at 10:23 AM, Comicopolis said:

For those who've seen the movie - did you wear a mask the whole time you were in the theatre?

I saw it at a drive-in, so not necessary.  Not the best way to watch this type of movie, but it's the only option in SoCal.

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We rented out a theater for 20 of our friends and family (only $150) and we all enjoyed it.  Definetely a bit confusing in parts but overall had a blockbuster feel to it and it was great to get out and enjoy some movie popcorn after a 7 month break.

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I saw it for a second time and I rate it even higher now.  It's one of those movies that are difficult to grasp at the onset but once you open your mind to the possibilities it makes it that much more entertaining.

Spoiler

I like the fan theory that says that the Kat and Sator's child is actually Neil (Robert Pattinson).  That made it even more interesting if it were true.

 

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