kav Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, DavidTheDavid said: But he gets to be that. He's not harming anyone. If people shop his stores, caveat emptor. If comic collectors can't tolerate a few weirdos in their world, they've probably picked the wrong hobby. I wish I had said to him Chuck why are your prices so out of whack?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, DavidTheDavid said: But he gets to be that. He's not harming anyone. If people shop his stores, caveat emptor. he is financially harming anyone not knowledgeable about comics , which really comes into play when a wife or someone wants to surprise their husband with a valuable comic book gift for his birthday and pays up to 10 times what is worth ,.. caveat emptor does not apply when someone well meaning gets burned big time financially FoggyNelson and dupont2005 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheDavid Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said: he is financially harming anyone not knowledgeable about comics , which really comes into play when a wife or someone wants to surprise their husband with a valuable comic book gift for his birthday and pays up to 10 times what is worth ,.. caveat emptor does not apply when someone well meaning gets burned big time financially So he's unscrupulous? Is that what you're saying? Do you think he does a lot of business from unknowing gift givers? Do you think he can support his business fleecing these people? ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Any collector of anything needs to firmly tell their spouse do not I repeat do not attempt to buy me a collectible-unless you understand the hobby fully you can get screwed over beyond belief or just get absolutely the wrong thing. My mom bless her soul was always buying me art supplies. I told her over and over not to do that. FineCollector, ThothAmon and tv horror 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 39 minutes ago, DavidTheDavid said: So he's unscrupulous if this list for insurance purposes is not unscrupulous then what would you call it ? FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheDavid Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said: if this list for insurance purposes is not unscrupulous then what would you call it ? Deluded? I dunno. Has he ever addressed the issue of his pricing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dupont2005 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, DavidTheDavid said: So he's unscrupulous? Is that what you're saying? Do you think he does a lot of business from unknowing gift givers? Do you think he can support his business fleecing these people? I think that is the staggering majority of all his sales that are over $5, possibly all of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan82 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 17 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said: Chuck did not rip off Edgar Church. Just have a read through this and tell me Church (Or his heirs) didn't get royally screwed by Chuck. He cleared out the house using 'chicken boxes' that held 300-400 books per box, he paid on a per box basis, and he dealt with an estate agent who's only concern was having the house emptied. The truth will never be known as to how much exactly was paid but I'll hazard guess and say it was way less than 5k. And how much has he made off them? He's a multi millionaire. He's also a scumbag! http://www.milehighcomics.com/tales/cbg12.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RockMyAmadeus Posted June 21, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 21, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dan82 said: Just have a read through this and tell me Church (Or his heirs) didn't get royally screwed by Chuck. He cleared out the house using 'chicken boxes' that held 300-400 books per box, he paid on a per box basis, and he dealt with an estate agent who's only concern was having the house emptied. The truth will never be known as to how much exactly was paid but I'll hazard guess and say it was way less than 5k. And how much has he made off them? He's a multi millionaire. He's also a scumbag! http://www.milehighcomics.com/tales/cbg12.html I read it as it was being published, and have re-read it multiple times since. Church did not get "royally screwed" by Chuck. You are judging Chuck from a 2019 perspective; in 1977, the situation was completely different. Chuck didn't steal the books; he paid what Edgar's children thought was acceptable. If the report is true, Edgar's children were in the process of throwing Edgar's books out, and had already called at least one other local dealer who turned them down. If that's the case, anything that Chuck paid them would have been more than they were expecting. 1977 was still an era where people were routinely throwing comic books away. "Bagging and boarding" was still a new concept. I have little doubt, knowing what I know about the people in my life, that those comics were looked at with scorn and contempt by his family, and they were happy to get rid of them. My family has treated my comics with scorn and contempt, unnecessarily taking up space, and that's in the era where "everybody knows" old comics aren't worthless. What turned out to be more important: the price Chuck paid, or the potential rescue of the greatest comic collection ever known, the vast majority of which is "finest known"...often by a LOT? What if Chuck hadn't been able to secure the money for the purchase? What would have happened to those books? Do you know...? Chuck wasn't under any obligation to reveal his version of events to anyone. Is the story embellished? Almost certainly. But is the general gist of the events correct? Again, almost certainly. And how much has he made off them? That's nobody's business but Chuck's, but it can very safely be said that Chuck's buyers have made a hell of a lot more than he did. And how do you know how much money Chuck has, and how is it any of your business? "Scumbag"...? Do not let envy and greed lead you to judge someone else based on a flawed perspective. Edited June 21, 2019 by RockMyAmadeus mrwoogieman, october, Mr Sneeze and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 hours ago, kav said: Any collector of anything needs to firmly tell their spouse do not I repeat do not attempt to buy me a collectible-unless you understand the hobby fully you can get screwed over beyond belief or just get absolutely the wrong thing. My mom bless her soul was always buying me art supplies. I told her over and over not to do that. She's a mother...That's their way of showing love bless them all. 1950's war comics, kav and Krismusic 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabaLament Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Theft sucks, regardless of whom it happens to. I don't deal with MHC often because I'd have to rob a bank to do serious shopping there, and I don't really have the skill set for all that. However, when I have called them up looking for a particular item, the staff have always been courteous. I disagree with his pricing structure, but its his business, he'll run it how he sees fit; and its not like I don't have a zillion other shops where I can take my business if (when) I feel he is grossly overestimating the value of his merchandise. Regardless of my opinion of his business methodology, I don't want any of us, collectors or retailers, to be robbed, injured, etc.; while our collections/inventories are a significant part of our lives/livelihood, its not worth being hurt or killed over. Though if the criminal who cut himself robbing MHC turns around and sues Chuck because he was injured during the incident, I may laugh just a little bit at the absurdity. mec3437 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 14 hours ago, kav said: I wish I had said to him Chuck why are your prices so out of whack?? He has an answer to that. 8ve asked him before, and his answer was befuddling. He said he prices books what they will be worth in the future, and thinks people will pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 7 hours ago, oakman29 said: He has an answer to that. 8ve asked him before, and his answer was befuddling. He said he prices books what they will be worth in the future, and thinks people will pay for it. I would have gone Judge Judy on him and said DO YOU KNOW HOW RIDICULOUS YOU SOUND??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Here we go . So he pays alot of money for his premium space, abundant stock, and utilities. Then he passes it onto the customer. How special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, oakman29 said: Here we go . So he pays alot of money for his premium space, abundant stock, and utilities. Then he passes it onto the customer. How special. except he doesnt pass squat cuz no one buys them hyper inflated books. Just his $2 drek is all that moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, kav said: except he doesnt pass squat cuz no one buys them hyper inflated books. Just his $2 drek is all that moves. But his 2 dollar drek is selling for 10 dollars , because he's got premium stock. Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, oakman29 said: But his 2 dollar drek is selling for 10 dollars , because he's got premium stock. Hahahaha not true-check out his sold items!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThothAmon Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, oakman29 said: Here we go . So he Couldn’t make heads or tails out of what he was saying until I smoked peyote. Then it all made perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, ThothAmon said: Couldn’t make heads or tails out of what he was saying until I smoked peyote. Then it all made perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Basically he was saying "I need more money guys pls buy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
