MGsimba77 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) Grader notes state: moderate bend left top of whole book through book. From looking at the bend it looks as if it's confined to the top edge area I pictured. Obviously I see that it goes through to the pages but not sure what they mean by "whole book"? Has anyone submitted a book with similar bends for pressing? What were the results? Thanks in advance for any feedback Edited September 13, 2019 by MGsimba77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 That dent appears to have broken the color so while it may lessen the appearance it will still show as a color breaking defect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 2 hours ago, JollyComics said: Grade? 9.4 JollyComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 21 hours ago, MGsimba77 said: 9.4 Probably, CCS will not press the book. Thanks for the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 12 minutes ago, JollyComics said: Probably, CCS will not press the book. Thanks for the grade. Why wouldn't they press it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The bend will come out. Unfortunately nothing can be done about the color loss, but it would look slightly better. mysterymachine and MGsimba77 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, MGsimba77 said: Why wouldn't they press it? If you give it to CCS, in the slab, they will probably not press it because the grade will not be improved. If you submitted it with instruction to press, they will press it, but it's a waste of money. Krismusic and Nico Esq 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: If you give it to CCS, in the slab, they will probably not press it because the grade will not be improved. If you submitted it with instruction to press, they will press it, but it's a waste of money. How do you know the grade wouldn't improve? You haven't seen the rest of the book. I was just asking if this bend could be pressed out and if anyone had a similar bend pressed out. I'll leave the grading to the graders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, MGsimba77 said: How do you know the grade wouldn't improve? You haven't seen the rest of the book. I was just asking if this bend could be pressed out and if anyone had a similar bend pressed out. I'll leave the grading to the graders With a grade already of 9.4, I'm assuming the rest of the book is in nice shape. You can press the book, it should 'look' better, but the cover color loss will still be there. If you are implying I can't grade and should leave the grading to the graders, so be it. Karl Liebl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: With a grade already of 9.4, I'm assuming the rest of the book is in nice shape. You can press the book, it should 'look' better, but the cover color loss will still be there. If you are implying I can't grade and should leave the grading to the graders, so be it. I have a slew of if 9.6s with more color breaking defects than this and a few with less. I don't yet know if I'll submit but overall it looks consistent with every 9.6 I've seen. I'm implying that it's not reasonable to determine what the grade is just by looking at that small area even if you were the best grader ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 58 minutes ago, MGsimba77 said: Why wouldn't they press it? CCS can screen it for you but I bet they will not take it for pressing like Bomber-Bob said recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, MGsimba77 said: I have a slew of if 9.6s with more color breaking defects than this and a few with less. I don't yet know if I'll submit but overall it looks consistent with every 9.6 I've seen. I'm implying that it's not reasonable to determine what the grade is just by looking at that small area even if you were the best grader ever. You always can submit it with your fingers crossing. I will cross my fingers for you. Remember what Joeypost said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, MGsimba77 said: I have a slew of if 9.6s with more color breaking defects than this and a few with less. I don't yet know if I'll submit but overall it looks consistent with every 9.6 I've seen. I'm implying that it's not reasonable to determine what the grade is just by looking at that small area even if you were the best grader ever. If the book was a little lower in grade, I think a press would raisie the grade. However, at 9.4, I don't see it going higher. The ability to get a 9.6 with a color breaking defect depends on the location and the size. In this case, I don't think so but I wish you luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GomerPyleUSMC Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If this is very important to you, get it pressed and take your chances. You might get a grade improvement. Let us know how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I agree that the defect appears to be "press-able", but will unlikely affect the CGC grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride the Tiger Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Here let's simplify it. The reason you have a 9.4 is because of the color break. Pressing will never... ever remove a color break meaning you will still be left with the defect that got you a 9.4 in the 1st place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 18 hours ago, MGsimba77 said: 18 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said: With a grade already of 9.4, I'm assuming the rest of the book is in nice shape. You can press the book, it should 'look' better, but the cover color loss will still be there. If you are implying I can't grade and should leave the grading to the graders, so be it. I have a slew of if 9.6s with more color breaking defects than this and a few with less. I don't yet know if I'll submit but overall it looks consistent with every 9.6 I've seen. I'm implying that it's not reasonable to determine what the grade is just by looking at that small area even if you were the best grader ever. Fair enough. You're telling us it's not reasonable to determine the grade based on the small area you've shown us so it's impossible for us to tell you if the grade is improvable. Your best answer is from Joey who's an expert at pressing. The bend/damage is likely improvable but color loss will remain and we can't determine if there's a potential grade bump. Bomber-Bob and F For Fake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share Posted May 30, 2019 21 minutes ago, thehumantorch said: Fair enough. You're telling us it's not reasonable to determine the grade based on the small area you've shown us so it's impossible for us to tell you if the grade is improvable. Your best answer is from Joey who's an expert at pressing. The bend/damage is likely improvable but color loss will remain and we can't determine if there's a potential grade bump. Appreciate the feedback. I didn't ask about the grade just if the bend could be pressed out. I could show close up pictures of a number of 9.8s I have with color breaking defects that appear just as bad or worse than what I'm showing here. Even moreso with 9.6s I have. Color loss itself is not determinative. A color breaking defect is allowed on a 9.8 In this case it's not a 9.8 due to other defects combined with that color break. It appears to have a better shot at a 9.6 The reason I don't ask for grading opinions is because there could be tiny subtle defects not visible even though a high resolution scan that can make all the difference between high grades even if that bend wasn't there. The only way to get a good grasp of grade is by looking at it in person. Thanks anyway for the feedback PunisherPunisherPunisher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
