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Ok so I sold 2 books for the first time. I bought the two books way back from a respectable seller here on the boards. 1 sale went through perfect. The other one I assumed was good but the one the buyer contacted me a month later accusing the book was tampered. Please see pics and tell me if justified. I gave the buyer a complete refund but I would wanna re-list the item but if it really was tampered I don’t wanna sell something like that. I am in no way an expert. I only have a handful of cgc comics. 

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I figured the same. I guess he just didn’t like the book. 

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Just google how to crack a CGC slab.  If someone managed to switch out a comic and only left a few small tool marks he’s pretty impressive.  That said my guess is the first pic is the real reason, customer was unhappy with the corner.

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from the slab cracking videos that I have seen the case would show huge cracks on the side they cracked out and to slide that comic out and a different one in and label without scratching it or having half the slab open is extremely hard to do and very impressive if they can. 

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Also the huge cracks I've seen were n the new slabs where they sealed the sides so it chips and splinters when trying to open but on the older slabs I believe they were only the 4 corners so there is a possibility that if this was a older slab it could of been popped I would ask CGC to take a look and see what they think. But I think your slab is a newer one so I think your good on the tampering. 

Edited by Krishosein
saw pic of the PQ which i believe is where its on the new slabs

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I have numerous slabs exactly like this and from what it sounds you've just dealt with an over-the-top OCD buyer.  I know you can't but I'd love to know the eBay ID or username of the person who bought that from you so I could save myself from the same hassle of dealing with them that you just had.  I love how he pointed out the 'tool marks' on the exterior of the case, as if someone would ever scrape the outside of a slab to 'tamper' with it. SMH 

"Yep, we figured out a way to swap out the books and we're gonna do it by scratching the outside of the case!!!" :roflmao:

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what is that glue stuff tho?

I seem to recall a thread where some guy opened the cases and about one out of 10 was opened leaving absolutely no marks whatsoever.

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5 hours ago, DomUga said:

I figured the same. I guess he just didn’t like the book. 

Is the buyer the one who wrote that the book "wasn't consistent with a 9.9 grade"? It's ok to disagree with CGC's grade...but there's much too much running to claim "scam!", when it's simply a matter of not agreeing with the grade. And, if that Chew #1 is otherwise perfect, that subtle damage is not enough to disqualify it from a 9.9 grade.

 

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Yup those pics came from the buyer. I guess he is OC when it comes to buying. I’m just gonna re-list and hope he doesn’t buy it. I have a bunch of 9.8s and this book looks way nicer. 

Thanks all for the feedback. 

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7 minutes ago, DomUga said:

Yup those pics came from the buyer. I guess he is OC when it comes to buying. I’m just gonna re-list and hope he doesn’t buy it. I have a bunch of 9.8s and this book looks way nicer. 

Thanks all for the feedback. 

I would agree with all as far as the sanctity of the CGC slab. The only thing troubling is that you're able to scrape out part of a glue or putty-like substance from between the two halves of the slab. There shouldn't be anything there that you're able to remove as you did.

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2 hours ago, kav said:

what is that glue stuff tho?

I seem to recall a thread where some guy opened the cases and about one out of 10 was opened leaving absolutely no marks whatsoever.

hm  

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21 minutes ago, DomUga said:

Yup those pics came from the buyer. I guess he is OC when it comes to buying. I’m just gonna re-list and hope he doesn’t buy it. I have a bunch of 9.8s and this book looks way nicer. 

Thanks all for the feedback. 

Is this a crack in the post? Looks like it. It's the corner where you can scrape a substance out of the separation between slab halves.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

Is this a crack in the post? Looks like it. It's the corner where you can scrape a substance out of the separation between slab halves.

 

 

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Does CGC indeed use a glue?

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2 minutes ago, kav said:

Does CGC indeed use a glue?

Glue would seal the area thus could prevent air from escaping.  So I would think that no they would not utilize glue.

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2 minutes ago, kav said:

Does CGC indeed use a glue?

Absolutely not, as far as my understanding goes.

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1 minute ago, James J Johnson said:

Absolutely not, as far as my understanding goes.

So WUT is that glue substance the buyer scraped off???

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2 minutes ago, Crops068 said:

Glue would seal the area thus could prevent air from escaping.  So I would think that no they would not utilize glue.

If there's glue or any type of adhesive used, it was not part of the slabbing process.

Edited by James J Johnson

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1 minute ago, kav said:

So WUT is that glue substance the buyer scraped off???

Obviously some type of adherent/sealant. The post and/or plastic immediately surrounding the post at the corner with that substance appears to be cracked internally.

Edited by James J Johnson

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Just now, James J Johnson said:

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If there's glue or any type of adhesive used, it was not part of the slabbing process.

So indeed the glue is indicative of the slab was tampered with?

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