Chillax23 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Wondering if you wise folks can provide some advice on the going rate range for a Ron Lim Silver Surfer Page from the regular series - not a splash page but rather a panel page featuring the Surfer. Just trying to get a general idea of affordability as I try to track down a page. I realize page significance and composure and issue # will play a role - but just trying to get a high level idea. timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxjhnsn Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 One standard art pricing answer coming up. Hope it helps. Spoiler You might want to explore the following resources The website Comic Art Tracker can help you find art and look at current asking prices for similar pieces. The OA auction archive at Heritage Auctions – This archive presents the results from all of their OA auctions.. Once you sign-up and get an id, you can search for pieces by your artist and see what they have sold for. The CAF Market Data - More auction results (more than 1,000,000) are available if you join the Comic Art Fans site, pay for Market Data access, and access eBay and other auction sites as well as Heritage. The Comic Art Database. It contains transaction records entered by the owners of Comic OA. Dealer sites. Dealers, generally, post their art with fixed prices though there are exceptions. There is a list of dealers on CGC OA board and the Dragonberry site has a list as well. The CAF site will search the inventories of several dealers for you. [Of course, Comic Art Tracker is better.] Blouin Art Info which tracks sales at major art auctions. It can turn up some Comic OA as well. Look for the “Art Prices” item on the top right of the screen Jerry Weist's Comic Art Price Guide - Heritage published a third edition of it. In my opinion, it's a good history book and might be useful for comparison work, but it was out of date a year before it was printed. A topic on the CGC OA boards, A-level panel page valuations by artist/run - thoughts/additions/changes?, holds a discussion that relates to your question. It provides some "generally agreed upon" ranges for popular runs by popular artists on popular characters. The Biggest OA Prices thread tracked some of the largest sales in the OA space. While that particular thread has stopped; it's probably worth reading for the discussions. Meanwhile , the information is still being updated - just with a different mechanism. The price information moved to The OA Elite blog. Click on the categories on the top of the page to see the updated list. The discussion moved to Biggest OA Prices: The Blog. New buyers and sellers often find that OA is too hard to price. I agree that it is difficult. However, I think that there is a valid reason. Each piece is unique. Uniqueness make art sales generally and OA specifically non-linear. Examples of how piece can differ in ways that impact pricing include: Content: Consecutive pages could and do sell for radically different amounts based on their content. Page Layout: In general, you might say: Covers > 1st Page Splash > Other Splash > 1/2 splash > panel page However, that's not always true either. The right panel page can be much more compelling than a bland splash. Penciler vs. character: There are "A-list" artists, but not all of their books/characters have the same value. Kirby FF pages generally go for more than JIM/Thor pages which go for more than Cap pages (2nd run) which go for more than ... Pencilers/inkers combinations - Kirby/Sinnott FF pages rank above Kirby and anyone else on FF, but a Kirby/InkerX FF page might be more or less than a Kirby/Stone Thor page. Hard to tell. Finally, you should join the comic book OA community. The three main points of Internet contact are: Yahoo's comicart-l mailing list The Comic Art Fans website The CGC OA Board The main points of physical contact are probably: Dedicated Comic Art Shows Comic Art Con (Spring/Fall) - A twice yearly show originally in northern NJ, but moving to NYC. The domain seems to have lapsed, but the show owner has a page for it here. NYC Comic Art Expo - Annual spring show, nothing but art people (dealers, individual sellers, and buyers) and a few local artists. Held at the Penn Hotel opposite Penn Station Torpedo Comics Collectors Convention (née LA Comic Art Show) - Annual art show one week before SDCC to leverage the dealer’s visit to the west coast Conventions with High Dealer Attendance San Diego Comic Con (July) New York City Comic Con (October) Shows with a comic artist focus Heroes Comic Con - Not a lot of comic art dealers, but a huge number of artists who generally will draw and have portfolios to sell Baltimore Comic Con - Similar to HeroesCon. One last comment, if you are looking to buy or sell, spend the time to learn the market. That might take 6 months, but it's worth the time. timguerrero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Well, I'm seeing crappy panel pages without much Surfer go for just under $500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malvin Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Twanj said: Well, I'm seeing crappy panel pages without much Surfer go for just under $500 Hopefully only from 34-38, 44-50 as Bill C noted. I think I sold a page on Clink without Surfer and it went for 4$75. Then again, it was all Elders so I wouldn't call it crappy panel pages Malvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_not_so_nice Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 hours ago, malvin said: Hopefully only from 34-38, 44-50 as Bill C noted. I think I sold a page on Clink without Surfer and it went for 4$75. Then again, it was all Elders so I wouldn't call it crappy panel pages Malvin Is that expensive or cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick O. Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Chillax23 said: Wondering if you wise folks can provide some advice on the going rate range for a Ron Lim Silver Surfer Page from the regular series - not a splash page but rather a panel page featuring the Surfer. Just trying to get a general idea of affordability as I try to track down a page. I realize page significance and composure and issue # will play a role - but just trying to get a high level idea. 5 hours ago, Twanj said: Well, I'm seeing crappy panel pages without much Surfer go for just under $500 Yeah any page from Lim's SS run with Surfer on it starts at around $500. The most expensive panel pages I can recall come from #55, featuring Thanos with the Gauntlet. One hit $3,550 and another sold for $3,840. Twanj and John E. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malvin Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 hours ago, mister_not_so_nice said: Is that expensive or cheap? heh, that was supposed to be $475 and it was a well publicized clink auction, I would assume it is just right. Malvin Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillax23 Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Thanks for the replies everyone - with this info I can go away and do some homework Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 On 7/5/2019 at 6:13 PM, Bill C said: For your wallet's sake, I'm guessing it might be best to avoid a lot of stuff from #34-38, 44-50 And issue 55. A page featuring Thanos and Warlock (and the Surfer) got bids around $3500 on eBay. (Didn't meet reserve). I'd say a run of the mill Lim Surfer page from his run depends on whether it's a panel page, surfer just standing around and dialoguing, or its an action page. (Excepting the Thanos and Inifinity saga tie ins, etc). I've been looking for a good one for a while. Probably $500-$750? Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
