awakeintheashes Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, RonS2112 said: What point? That because you knew TWO WHOLE DAYS before some others that Kirkman was pulling a switcheroo, you are somehow more in the know than people who do this for a living? There's a reason this story made national news -- and again, in this case Monday vs. Wednesday doesn't make a difference in the number of books they would have ordered. Got it now? 40 minutes ago, RonS2112 said: Gonna assume that the author of this post (and many like it on this forum) doesn't follow TWD comic. That is all. Angel of Death 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bookery Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Kirkman gave his philosophical reasons for doing this, and it's his book and he can do want he wants. But whenever publishers do this, it's the comic shops that take the heat. There will always be confusion and mistakes with this kind of stunt. And the anger is always aimed at the comic retailer... for some reason the publisher who decided to create a book with lots of interest and purposefully made sure many of those interested wouldn't be able to obtain a copy... for some reason they get off without any criticism. F For Fake 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kav Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 minute ago, awakeintheashes said: Link to post Share on other sites
awakeintheashes Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, kav said: I guess it really depends on how hard you are trying to find it. Angel of Death and kav 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kav Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, awakeintheashes said: I guess it really depends on how hard you are trying to find it. Link to post Share on other sites
F For Fake Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bookery said: Kirkman gave his philosophical reasons for doing this, and it's his book and he can do want he wants. But whenever publishers do this, it's the comic shops that take the heat. There will always be confusion and mistakes with this kind of stunt. And the anger is always aimed at the comic retailer... for some reason the publisher who decided to create a book with lots of interest and purposefully made sure many of those interested wouldn't be able to obtain a copy... for some reason they get off without any criticism. It's difficult to see a winner with this decision, other than short-term flippers who will make a killing on copies they are able to gobble up. Stores are stuck in the crosshairs, enduring wrath of dissatisfied customers, and potential lost profit if they'd been able to order the book fully armed with the knowledge. I guess Kirkman wins in the sense that his trolling was successful, so he gets a chuckle out of it? But I'm sure every shop could have used the sales bump that would have accompanied a properly solicited book, and more copies would have gotten into readers' hands. I don't collect WD any more, and I haven't bought any to sell or flip, so I don't have a dog in the race. But it definitely feels like this was a missed opportunity for all involved. Instead, shops are going to lose a dependable monthly Top 10 seller on top of the insult of not being able to capitalize on the ending. Not saying that Kirkman owes it to the LCS's to keep writing and publishing if he doesn't want to, but it might have been nice to give a heads up to the people who helped build this thing into what it is today. Bookery 1 Link to post Share on other sites
awakeintheashes Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Just now, F For Fake said: 15 minutes ago, Bookery said: Kirkman gave his philosophical reasons for doing this, and it's his book and he can do want he wants. But whenever publishers do this, it's the comic shops that take the heat. There will always be confusion and mistakes with this kind of stunt. And the anger is always aimed at the comic retailer... for some reason the publisher who decided to create a book with lots of interest and purposefully made sure many of those interested wouldn't be able to obtain a copy... for some reason they get off without any criticism. It's difficult to see a winner with this decision, other than short-term flippers who will make a killing on copies they are able to gobble up. Stores are stuck in the crosshairs, enduring wrath of dissatisfied customers, and potential lost profit if they'd been able to order the book fully armed with the knowledge. I guess Kirkman wins in the sense that his trolling was successful, so he gets a chuckle out of it? But I'm sure every shop could have used the sales bump that would have accompanied a properly solicited book, and more copies would have gotten into readers' hands. I don't collect WD any more, and I haven't bought any to sell or flip, so I don't have a dog in the race. But it definitely feels like this was a missed opportunity for all involved. Instead, shops are going to lose a dependable monthly Top 10 seller on top of the insult of not being able to capitalize on the ending. Not saying that Kirkman owes it to the LCS's to keep writing and publishing if he doesn't want to, but it might have been nice to give a heads up to the people who helped build this thing into what it is today. If these boards have taught me anything, it is that you can't go wrong with blaming speculators or Eric Stephenson. F For Fake and Beige 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kav Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 minute ago, awakeintheashes said: If these boards have taught me anything, it is that you can't go wrong with blaming speculators or Eric Stephenson. Link to post Share on other sites
Bookery Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, awakeintheashes said: If these boards have taught me anything, it is that you can't go wrong with blaming speculators or Eric Stephenson. I don't see how F For Fake blamed speculators. He simply pointed out they were the only winners (actually, he mentioned short-term flippers, which isn't quite the same as speculators anyway). But pointing out that someone came out a winner in a situation is a long way from blaming them for something. F For Fake 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NoMan Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 What about the methadone clinic? Link to post Share on other sites
Bird Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mystafo said: Karma...it will come back around and bite you. this should be on every page Link to post Share on other sites
F For Fake Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bookery said: I don't see how F For Fake blamed speculators. He simply pointed out they were the only winners (actually, he mentioned short-term flippers, which isn't quite the same as speculators anyway). But pointing out that someone came out a winner in a situation is a long way from blaming them for something. Thanks! Yes, not blaming speculators. Make hay while the sun is shining! I have flipped more than my share of books. I'm just saying that this could have been a big opportunity for shops AND readers, and instead the only people I see making any money off of it are the flippers. There could have been a lot of money to go around, and a lot of happy buyers as well. awakeintheashes 1 Link to post Share on other sites
awakeintheashes Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Just now, Bookery said: I don't see how F For Fake blamed speculators. He simply pointed out they were the only winners (actually, he mentioned short-term flippers, which isn't quite the same as speculators anyway). But pointing out that someone came out a winner in a situation is a long way from blaming them for something. Oh, I'm not saying he did. Far from it. He was stating that it's a terrible situation for retailers, and I agree. I was simply offering a tongue-in-cheek take on the situation that may uncover a speck of truth lodged in the corner of the industry's mouth. F For Fake 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kav Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Mystafo said: Karma...it will come back around and bite you. Ouch Link to post Share on other sites
___ Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, kav said: Ouch not me so not sure what that is all about??? Link to post Share on other sites
greggy Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 @Buzzetta The time is now kav, F For Fake, Buzzetta and 1 other 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
kav Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Just now, greggy said: @Buzzetta The time is now thx I always forget to notify @Buzzetta Link to post Share on other sites
kav Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, 1p36DSA said: not me so not sure what that is all about??? @Gsims718 Link to post Share on other sites
___ Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 minute ago, kav said: @Gsims718 sent him a message kav 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bird Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 man did Friday come early this week! FSF and Angel of Death 2 Link to post Share on other sites
