Buzzetta Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Aaaaaand posted... let's see what happens. 1950's war comics and kav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buzzetta said: Aaaaaand posted... let's see what happens. reply posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RockMyAmadeus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, Buzzetta said: Things don't always work out that way... I would ask this question on the CBCS boards and especially on the CBCS FB groups.... They will go berserk. Whoever should undertake such a mission should do the boards a solid and end their post with, "You want to hear a good joke? Nobody speak, nobody get choked." CBCS created a monster when they launched their forum, and now complains about the monster they created. By silencing dissenting voices, they only emboldened the screeching lunatics, making the situation much worse. They made their bed, and allowed the children to wet in it...they deserve what they get. You want to silence criticism? You will end up in an echo chamber, where the screechiest partisans rule, and there is no discourse of any kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Buzzetta said: 49 minutes ago, kav said: I would post it but they would ban me most likely. I will ask it on the CBCS boards... If they ban me so what... They would narrow the population down to 2 board members !? Edited July 31, 2019 by Gotham Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buzzetta said: I solved it for ya.... Someone took a bath in this book. The CBCS copy was graded first and was sold on 8/29/2018 for $10,405 LINK: http://comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?id=1268769 The CGC copy was graded on 4/16/2019 and was later sold on ComicLink at an unknown date for $869 Someone got screwed to the tune of over $9,500 Awesome ! Yet another reason to not even consider CBCS. F joke. Edited July 31, 2019 by Gotham Kid Buzzetta and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Gotham Kid said: Awesome ! Yet another reason to not even consider CBCS. F joke. This story could shake the confidence big time in collectors. "yeah that $10,000 book might actually be a $900 book-" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, kav said: This story could shake the confidence big time in collectors. "yeah that $10,000 book might actually be a $900 book-" Curiously enough there is a CBCS book I have looked over many times just can't bring myself to buy it. Buzzetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Gotham Kid said: Curiously enough there is a CBCS book I have looked over many times just can't bring myself to buy it. Gotham Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelangelo Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 the black on the top might be CT if they were touching up something black with black ink. the subjectivity of the whole thing is: was someone trying to improve the look of the book with ink? but colouring a white square black is just dumb.... not CT, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Michelangelo said: the black on the top might be CT if they were touching up something black with black ink. the subjectivity of the whole thing is: was someone trying to improve the look of the book with ink? but colouring a white square black is just dumb.... not CT, IMO I agree with you. If that is what the CT is then that is a shortcoming on CGC's part. However... the trimming... ohhhhh the trimming. Michelangelo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) CGC and CBCS board members engaging with each other on Facebook... NSFW Edited July 31, 2019 by Buzzetta Sauce Dog and Nico Esq 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Quote Jesse_O said: "I'm not totally convinced that they are the same comic. " That boy wouldn't be convinced that the Titanic sank... Buzzetta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 18 minutes ago, Buzzetta said: 19 minutes ago, Michelangelo said: the black on the top might be CT if they were touching up something black with black ink. the subjectivity of the whole thing is: was someone trying to improve the look of the book with ink? but colouring a white square black is just dumb.... not CT, IMO I agree with you. If that is what the CT is then that is a shortcoming on CGC's part. However... the trimming... ohhhhh the trimming. Boys it's been established the ink smear is distributor pen mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herc2000 Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 I like CGC and CBCS, there's not usually issues like this to my knowledge. There were a lot of trimmed books missed by CGC over the years, JE and some other antique dealer form the UK, so it can be hard to tell in some cases, especially, as in these two cases when the person is so intent on trying to con the system. Has it ever happened that a book is designated trimmed, when in fact it's not been trimmed? Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Buzzetta said: Aaaaaand posted... let's see what happens. link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmilwaukee6er Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Dusted off the ole Voldy login... bababooey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, herc2000 said: I like CGC and CBCS, there's not usually issues like this to my knowledge. There were a lot of trimmed books missed by CGC over the years, JE and some other antique dealer form the UK, so it can be hard to tell in some cases, especially, as in these two cases when the person is so intent on trying to con the system. Has it ever happened that a book is designated trimmed, when in fact it's not been trimmed? Too many horror stories for me to considering 'investing' my hard-earned money into Voldemort cases and opinions. I want peace of mind when I make a big purchase - not voices in the back of my head wondering what I actually have in that plastic case. I "buy the book and not the label" when it comes to condition, but I buy the label for the professional opinion on authenticity and conservation/restoration. Voldemort just doesn't live up to "professional" standards for me. Considering the answer to your question; Will we ever know? Someone could claim something to be, "from my personal collection that I bought off the rack and submitted to CGC myself", but can we trust what they say...? Gotham Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Too many horror stories for me to considering 'investing' my hard-earned money into Voldemort cases and opinions. I want peace of mind when I make a big purchase - not voices in the back of my head wondering what I actually have in that plastic case. I "buy the book and not the label" when it comes to condition, but I buy the label for the professional opinion on authenticity and conservation/restoration. Voldemort just doesn't live up to "professional" standards for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, oldmilwaukee6er said: I just HAD to watch more Edited July 31, 2019 by Gotham Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
