PhilipB2k17 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) This is the literal first published appearance of Judge Dredd (non promotional image). It's now up for auction. The Ezquerra promotional art from the first page of this story is a stat. Would love to find that OA. Edited October 28, 2019 by PhilipB2k17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I wsa wondering about that. So that page 1 motorcycle is a stat. bummer. The rest of the story is sharp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Bronty said: I wsa wondering about that. So that page 1 motorcycle is a stat. bummer. The rest of the story is sharp though. This is a weird one. I'd have to go back and see how they promoted the story, but the image may just be of a generic Judge rather than Dredd, per se. Note that the badge he's wearing just says "Judge' and not "Dredd" as well. Also, in the story context, it could be argued that the Judge on the Motorcycle on the first page isn't Dredd, but Judge Alvin, whom "Whitey" the bad guy, kills. Judge Alvin was riding a Motorcycle when he was shot. If the Judge on the Cycle image was not promoted as the Judge Dredd feature, but just a generic story character, then the image of Dredd standing next to the Grand Judge is the official, bona fide first Judge Dredd appearance ever published. In any case, it's a hell of a thing to see up for auction. Bronty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, PhilipB2k17 said: This is a weird one. I'd have to go back and see how they promoted the story, but the image may just be of a generic Judge rather than Dredd, per se. Note that the badge he's wearing just says "Judge' and not "Dredd" as well. Also, in the story context, it could be argued that the Judge on the Motorcycle on the first page isn't Dredd, but Judge Alvin, whom "Whitey" the bad guy, kills. Judge Alvin was riding a Motorcycle when he was shot. If the Judge on the Cycle image was not promoted as the Judge Dredd feature, but just a generic story character, then the image of Dredd standing next to the Grand Judge is the official, bona fide first Judge Dredd appearance ever published. In any case, it's a hell of a thing to see up for auction. I hear you. I think regardless of the context of teh story the market would like a big ghost rider like wheelie entrance like that to be OA. As you said, amazing lot either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, PhilipB2k17 said: The literal first published story appearance of Judge Dredd is up for auction. The only previous appearance was Carlos Ezquerra’s promotional drawing of Dredd on his motorcycle. Dredd doesn’t appear on the cover of 2000 AD prog 2. http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=prog&page=profiles&choice=2 So....$75K to $100,000 for the full story is probably accurate. And I think the Dredd on the cycle in the pages up for auction is a stat of that promotional drawing, which is a bummer as Bronty said. Edited October 28, 2019 by comix4fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 35 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said: Funnily enough, in yesterday's paper... @Bronty @PhilipB2k17 The article is a little off on the value of a copy of Prog #2. I sold a high grade copy for several times their estimate more than 5 years ago. The cover art to Prog 204 (which is what he's talking about having just sold) is TREMENDOUS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, comix4fun said: The article is a little off on the value of a copy of Prog #2. I sold a high grade copy for several times their estimate more than 5 years ago. I'm sure. It's not my area of expertise at all, I just saw it in the paper yesterday and thought you guys might like to see it. I never really got into 2000AD as a kid. But I do remember one issue that I purchased that had a sad robot in it which made me feel sad too. It's funny what sticks with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, Get Marwood & I said: I'm sure. It's not my area of expertise at all, I just saw it in the paper yesterday and thought you guys might like to see it. I never really got into 2000AD as a kid. But I do remember one issue that I purchased that had a sad robot in it which made me feel sad too. It's funny what sticks with you. Appreciate the posting. I am sure a lot of guys in the states missed that auction. That's a great McMahon cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, comix4fun said: And I think the Dredd on the cycle in the pages up for auction is a stat of that promotional drawing, which is a bummer as Bronty said. Yeah. We discussed that. I can see some British creators or comics fans biding this one up. So, it could bust $100K. But I’ll stick with my estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 minute ago, comix4fun said: Appreciate the posting. I am sure a lot of guys in the states missed that auction. That's a great McMahon cover. You’re one of the collectors I thought of when I saw the Prog 2 Dredd art up at Heritage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, PhilipB2k17 said: Yeah. We discussed that. I can see some British creators or comics fans biding this one up. So, it could bust $100K. But I’ll stick with my estimate. It's got an intrinsic historic factor that could really make all estimates fly out the window. We've seen single pages of B-C-D level characters go bananas at auction, so I can imagine this story could be just as nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, comix4fun said: It's got an intrinsic historic factor that could really make all estimates fly out the window. We've seen single pages of B-C-D level characters go bananas at auction, so I can imagine this story could be just as nuts. Yeah. I apologize for publicizing it so much, as I bet you and a few others here were hoping it’d fly a bit under the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Just now, PhilipB2k17 said: Yeah. I apologize for publicizing it so much, as I bet you and a few others here were hoping it’d fly a bit under the radar. Well, it is at heritage, absent a mysterious outage right when the live bidding hits.... the competition will be hot and heavy regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, PhilipB2k17 said: Yeah. We discussed that. I can see some British creators or comics fans biding this one up. So, it could bust $100K. But I’ll stick with my estimate. Its not going for 50 (IMO). I'd think about paying that and I'm never competitive on stuff like this. Which suggests to me a 3x bronty multiplier FMV of 150 ......which is an awful lot for five pages, but I'll stick with that guess Edited October 28, 2019 by Bronty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, comix4fun said: The article is a little off on the value of a copy of Prog #2. I sold a high grade copy for several times their estimate more than 5 years ago. GBP or USD? I ask because that ratio has moved 25% in the last five years, in favor of the dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 10 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said: Any guesses on the 2000 AD #2 (First Judge Dredd 5 page story appearance)? I'm a massive Dreddhead, so this is grail territory for me. But, how will this play in a US comic art auction? I regard this as the Amazing Fantasy #15 interior art pages of British comic art. https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/mike-mcmahon-2000-ad-2-judge-dredd-first-appearance-complete-5-page-story-original-art-ipc-total-5-/p/7212-234003.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515 Whoa! Thanks for flagging this! I hadn't even noticed it. Duly tracking now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said: Any guesses on the 2000 AD #2 (First Judge Dredd 5 page story appearance)? I'm a massive Dreddhead, so this is grail territory for me. But, how will this play in a US comic art auction? I regard this as the Amazing Fantasy #15 interior art pages of British comic art. https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/mike-mcmahon-2000-ad-2-judge-dredd-first-appearance-complete-5-page-story-original-art-ipc-total-5-/p/7212-234003.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515 Weren't these pages just offered on CAF (or maybe FB) a week or so ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Nexus said: Weren't these pages just offered on CAF (or maybe FB) a week or so ago? It’s possible. But I regularly scan those sources, and I didn’t see them. Maybe someone posted them on Facebook to point out that they were up at Heritage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panelfan1 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Nexus said: Weren't these pages just offered on CAF (or maybe FB) a week or so ago? Yes. It was either Art Droids or Brit comics or something like that. They had prices on individual pages but said to email form a price on the whole thing. Trying to recall pricing - I think pages ranged 9-17k per page depending on the page if anyone here has a clearer memory - feel free to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Panelfan1 said: I think pages ranged 9-17k per page That's a whole lot less than $100k for the entire story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
