WPPJames Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Purchased this on Ebay from a "100% positive feedback seller". No photos of any spine splits, only this description: "...small spine split at the bottom of the book ... it should grade at 6.5". More like a 2.5" ss at bottom and 1/2 ss at top. When I complained, my reply was "We make no claim to be professional graders, we provide pictures and our interpretation of the grade of the book, you bid for it and received the exact book pictured in the auction at a fair price". Am I wrong to feel I was shortchanged? Unlike seller, I'm currently auctioning the comic off on Ebay with all damages noted. Current high bid is $1.25. But if I give the seller a negative feedback then he returns the favor and it only hurts me, right? Opinions and suggestions appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversurfer275 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I mean outside from the rips it looks like a 6.5 comic but with the rips 5.5 also this really a comic people care about so I doubt people will bid on it that high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 Thanks for the feedback. Outside of the ss I think it's easily a 6.5. But a 2.5" cumulative spine split could grade as high as a 5.5? I thought that size of ss would top out at best at a 4.0 from the grading scales I've looked at. But I posted to get input, so thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Stair Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Sellers cannot leave negative feedback for buyers FYI. Easier though to just open a claim with eBay for item not as expected and force a return. What’d you pay? The Lions Den and 10cents 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted August 13, 2019 Author Share Posted August 13, 2019 Drew Stair. They can't leave a negative rating? Then how do buyers get a rating on Ebay? It was of minimal value. I think I paid only $12 + shipping. I know that is minimal, but just perturbed that their response would be so dismissive. Hope they don't treat other customers the same way. And I'd prefer to give someone else a hopefully good deal via auction than spend $5 to ship it back. Probably shouldn't have wasted everyone's time here even bringing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Stair Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, WPPJames said: Drew Stair. They can't leave a negative rating? Then how do buyers get a rating on Ebay? It was of minimal value. I think I paid only $12 + shipping. I know that is minimal, but just perturbed that their response would be so dismissive. Hope they don't treat other customers the same way. And I'd prefer to give someone else a hopefully good deal via auction than spend $5 to ship it back. Probably shouldn't have wasted everyone's time here even bringing it up. Worst a seller can leave is a negative comment, but the rating left from a seller is always positive now. Ebay’s way of eliminating retribution from sellers against buyers that leave a negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Well, I'd look at this as a lesson learned; it's one of the reasons why certified books are so popular these days. And that's a pretty menacing spine split. There's no way this book is anywhere near the Fine range; it's more like a GD/VG with that big of a split. Still, for $12 it's a cheap lesson in comic book economics... marvelmaniac, James J Johnson and Krismusic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Drew Stair said: Sellers cannot leave negative feedback for buyers FYI. Easier though to just open a claim with eBay for item not as expected and force a return. What’d you pay? They can’t leave negative feedback. I would leave neutral feedback. Still stands out and let’s them know to be more careful next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicdey Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3.5 at best but dangerous to read. Cheap lesson. And yes too bad they were not amenable to their lack of grading skills. They indicated it had a spine split so they at least know what one is😉 WPPJames, The Lions Den and DR.X 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4.5 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 FWIW, you could probably win an "item not as described" return. The seller not only glossed over the severity of the bottom split but also failed to mention the top split. DR.X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnenock Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 At least you know not to buy from that eBayer again. The list grows.... The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said: 4.5 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 hours ago, johnenock said: At least you know not to buy from that eBayer again. The list grows.... Sellers like this are the reason CGC continues to be a viable option... ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunLogan Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 You can just ask to return it. They'll pay the return shipping fees. Ebay is heavy pro-buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, The Lions Den said: And that's a pretty menacing spine split. There's no way this book is anywhere near the Fine range;.. Comicdey is right. Those splits are going to knock it down to 3.5 at least. Item is not as described. Why not just send it back? And on another note, we have quite a few really good dealers right here on the boards. Give them a shout if your looking for something. Edited August 13, 2019 by DR.X The Lions Den and comicdonna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Send it back. You're not out of line to be disappointed, and you're underestimating your position. YOU have the upper hand being the buyer on ebay, not the seller... Make him feel the inconvenience, maybe he/she won't grossly over grade next time... Who am I kidding, yes they will... Krismusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Callaway29 said: Send it back. You're not out of line to be disappointed, and you're underestimating your position. YOU have the upper hand being the buyer on ebay, not the seller... Make him feel the inconvenience, maybe he/she won't grossly over grade next time... Who am I kidding, yes they will... LOL. Yea, very true. I'm going to post negative feedback for them on Ebay and be done with it. I'd rather just sell it (currently in auction) on Ebay and hope someone is happy with a good deal on a lower quality book then send it back for $7 (after my shipping cost) just so they can relist it and sell it again over-graded. Couple of comments. The Lions Den : Yes, I probably wouldn't buy a more expensive book that wasn't slabbed. But not really feasible on low to low/mid price books. These are the ones I've had the best luck with reselling later on. You take your chances. And not really sure what cheap lesson I learned other than sometimes you get ripped off and a 100% feedback rating on Ebay doesn't mean as much as some people would think. DR.X : What would the best way for me to do that? The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 This would have to come back as a graded 5.5 in order for you to break even after grading/shipping fees. When I see the disclaimer that we are not professional graders, I start looking elsewhere. The Lions Den, DR.X, Bart Allen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 9 hours ago, joeypost said: This would have to come back as a graded 5.5 in order for you to break even after grading/shipping fees. When I see the disclaimer that WE ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL GRADERS, I start looking elsewhere. but the turd puts in a grade of what he thinks it "should" come back at. He should just send it back and call him out on his lousy descriptions and non existent grading skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
