LordRahl Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Always seems to have high grade keys and doesn't slab. Anyone have any dealings and if so, how was his grading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rube11 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I have never bought have watched his closely...and every big auction usually has at least 1 bidder with low feedback bids a bunch of time and raises the prices...then if they happen to win one, there score NEVER goes up. You can't see the bidders, but its always the same number of positive feedbacks bidding..I presume but seems really fishy to me. BA773 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 01TheDude and Krismusic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vheflin Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 beatlebluecat has recently sold 4 raw NM Hulk #181 for a total of $25K...wonder where they all come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, vheflin said: beatlebluecat has recently sold 4 raw NM Hulk #181 for a total of $25K...wonder where they all come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 16 hours ago, LordRahl said: Always seems to have high grade keys and doesn't slab. Anyone have any dealings and if so, how was his grading? Based on his scans and the grades mentioned in his listings, when you look real close at those always slightly blurry scans, the grading looks extremely optimistic, spines crisscrossed with stresses more typical of CGC 7.0 to 8.0s than the 9.2 to 9.6s the books are touted as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 15 hours ago, lizards2 said: her? Her? What's her initials? That would make it easy for me to pinpoint the exact source of the Hulk 181s, AS 129s, AS 300s, etc., etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordRahl Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 9 hours ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: This is what I suspected. Sad to see I was right. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LordRahl said: This is what I suspected. Sad to see I was right. Oh well Your instincts were spot on. Edited August 21, 2019 by James J Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpfefer Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 I bought a "high grade" ASM 129 that was advertised as a 9.4-9.6. After receiving it from BEATLEBLUECAT it was a 9.0 at best. They didn't honor the return policy and Ebay had to get involved. I would avoid them like the plague. BA773 and Tedsaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James J Johnson Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, cpfefer said: I bought a "high grade" ASM 129 that was advertised as a 9.4-9.6. After receiving it from BEATLEBLUECAT it was a 9.0 at best. They didn't honor the return policy and Ebay had to get involved. I would avoid them like the plague. What were the seller's initials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 48 minutes ago, James J Johnson said: Her? What's her initials? That would make it easy for me to pinpoint the exact source of the Hulk 181s, AS 129s, AS 300s, etc., etc. I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Avoid bluebeetle like the plaque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bejack3 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, cpfefer said: I bought a "high grade" ASM 129 that was advertised as a 9.4-9.6. After receiving it from BEATLEBLUECAT it was a 9.0 at best. They didn't honor the return policy and Ebay had to get involved. I would avoid them like the plague. This happened to me, possibly the same book? Last fall I bought what looked to be a safe 9.4 ASM129 and a possible 9.6. When I got it there were multiple spine ticks that ran deep and a smudge that I just could not see on the pictures. It wasn't suspicious enough at the time for me to say they weren't being forthcoming with the defects but apparnetly multiple people had similar experiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poekaymon Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) As with kellyssuperheroes, CGC saves me from another one. This beatlebluecat is one shady baller. Edit: I realize I can't go necroing every shady seller, so this will be my last. But I was just about to buy from two in a row, saw warning signs, and here are the threads. Is the moral here no raws off ebay? Edited May 16, 2020 by Poekaymon kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveinthecity Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Poekaymon said: As with kellyssuperheroes, CGC saves me from another one. This beatlebluecat is one shady baller. Edit: I realize I can't go necroing every shady seller, so this will be my last. But I was just about to buy from two in a row, saw warning signs, and here are the threads. Is the moral here no raws off ebay? No. Nothing wrong with alerting buyers these “shady” sellers are still active. We sometimes lose focus and good sense when we see a cool book or other shiny things. Find sellers you’re comfortable with and give them your business. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoogieWoogie Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 On 5/15/2020 at 11:53 PM, Poekaymon said: As with kellyssuperheroes, CGC saves me from another one. This beatlebluecat is one shady baller. Edit: I realize I can't go necroing every shady seller, so this will be my last. But I was just about to buy from two in a row, saw warning signs, and here are the threads. Is the moral here no raws off ebay? Very late but no, you can find great deals buying raw books off of Ebay you just have to find a reputable seller that isn't juicing their listings. I think CGC estimates in the listing are shady, generally, but a VF/NM designation is fine. Just make sure there are plenty of pictures and ask for more if need be. I found a seller with really nice wares that will probably yield a lot of very high grade books. They're priced fairly, though a bit on the high side for big lots, and he doesn't seem to know to list all the key issues in the title so some end up going well below FMV. So there are great sellers on Ebay you just need to do your due diligence. Tedsaid and Poekaymon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLeagueCHEW Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The reason why these sellers deal in raw. By the time you get the book, they have a 50/50 shot of you dropping it into your collection and never questioning the grade or if it was restored. Or, by the time it gets graded and back in your possession, it may be to late to file a claim. Tedsaid and B2D327 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poekaymon Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, BoogieWoogie said: Very late but no, you can find great deals buying raw books off of Ebay you just have to find a reputable seller that isn't juicing their listings. I think CGC estimates in the listing are shady, generally, but a VF/NM designation is fine. Just make sure there are plenty of pictures and ask for more if need be. I found a seller with really nice wares that will probably yield a lot of very high grade books. They're priced fairly, though a bit on the high side for big lots, and he doesn't seem to know to list all the key issues in the title so some end up going well below FMV. So there are great sellers on Ebay you just need to do your due diligence. Yeah since posting this back in May I've bought a bunch of raws off the bay. Has mostly been fine. Have overpaid a few times and vice versa. Probably about even overall. I have yet to attempt to return anything. Main problem with raws is I don't really know page color or restoration or any of that. That's one reason I like to buy non 9.8s and crack em. I notice that a lot of times people post really blurry or poorly lit pics. And there is really no basis to judge whether it is a 9.8 or a 9.0 or lower. Usually debate whether they did it on purpose or they just suck at posting books. A look through their history usually informs which way it goes. jimjum12 and Tedsaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
