Staple tears due to SCS 2 2

[Bluemedgroup]

3 minutes ago, Topnotchman said:

If you get the same angle, take an equal out of focus picture and we shall see if that flaw becomes so blurred it disappears.  

Here’s my attempt at out of focus picture.  

[jokiing]

13 minutes ago, Bluemedgroup said:

Here’s my attempt at out of focus picture.  

Original ebay pic was taken at an angle looking down, going through the plastic at an angle that could distort image even more. The poor lighting doesn't help either.

Edited August 22, 2019 by jokiing
...more to say.

[joeypost]

3 hours ago, Bluemedgroup said:

I just purchased the grader's notes. No mention of staple tears...interesting

Grader Notes:	large, multiple stain full top of cover multiple crease full right of front cover breaks color multiple crease left bottom of back cover multiple readers crease front cover breaks color puzzle coupon filled out right bottom of back cover very small, multiple tear full bottom of back cover

Look at the front cover scan. You see staple tears on the front cover. Notes aren't all inclusive. 

[James J Johnson]

On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2019 at 4:35 PM, Bluemedgroup said:

Just bought a CGC 3.0 book from eBay. Book was packed very carefully in a oversize box with peanuts.  Despite that it received the ol’ shaken comic syndrome courtesy of USPS and received a staple tear at the lower staple to the back cover.   Front cover already had a slight tear which very slightly increased it. 

Now I know it’s hard to quantify the value of the damage but obviously damage has occurred. So I’m reaching out to y’all. 

Is the book still a 3.0?  Should I return the book?  Or should ask for a discount?  

 

 

Here's exactly what the seller did. Took me about 40 seconds to eradicate the tears. Try it, it's easy. Better appearance will juice the bid, 3.0 or 9.0. Many of the sellers of graded sportscards do this with edge dings and stains. Makes the card look like it's undergraded thus yielding better bid results. 

 

[jokiing]

17 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

Here's exactly what the seller did. Took me about 40 seconds to eradicate the tears. Try it, it's easy. Better appearance will juice the bid, 3.0 or 9.0. Many of the sellers of graded sportscards do this with edge dings and stains. Makes the card look like it's undergraded thus yielding better bid results. 

 

Yes, easy to do on the after pic which is sharp and has a somewhat even surface. Not so sure in would be as easy on the before pic. The pixel pattern in the original (on ebay) would make it a difficult patch to hide.

[James J Johnson]

7 minutes ago, jokiing said:

Yes, easy to do on the after pic which is sharp and has a somewhat even surface. Not so sure in would be as easy on the before pic. The pixel pattern in the original (on ebay) would make it a difficult patch to hide.

Be even easier on the lower res pic. And as easy as it was to get rid of the tears on the hi-res shot, it would be 10 times easier on the low-rez pic. Think of it this way. It's either photoshopped or the book is haunted. Believe in the supernatural, do you?

[jokiing]

27 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

Be even easier on the lower res pic. And as easy as it was to get rid of the tears on the hi-res shot, it would be 10 times easier on the low-rez pic. Think of it this way. It's either photoshopped or the book is haunted. Believe in the supernatural, do you?

As a matter of fact I do.... but that aside, you may be right, but looking at quality of photography not so sure that seller would be capable of such sorcery.  I've been leaning towards bad photography and the downward angle as the source of this trickery... next step... see if the seller floats or sinks....

I would like to see BLUEMEDGOUP take a pic that matches the angle of the original pic to see what the tears look like. I take a lot of photos of comics and some defect don't show at certain angles and lighting.

Edited August 23, 2019 by jokiing

[James J Johnson]

14 minutes ago, jokiing said:

As a matter of fact I do.... but that aside, you may be right, but looking at quality of photography not so sure that seller would be capable of such sorcery.  I've been leaning towards bad photography and the downward angle as the source of this trickery... next step... see if the seller floats or sinks....

I would like to see BLUEMEDGOUP take a pic that matches the angle of the original pic to see what the tears look like. I take a lot of photos of comics and some defect don't show at certain angles and lighting.

Bad photography isn't always unintentional. Matter of fact, on ebay, it's many times part of the sales strategy. There's only one explanation here, unless one or all the other front cover images look drastically different as does the back cover image.

Edited August 23, 2019 by James J Johnson