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MCU's SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME (2021?)
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As much as I love seeing Peter Parker interacting in the larger Marvel Universe with the MCU, I was rewatching Civil War the other night after a looooong time of last watching this film. It didn't hit me until I rewatch the scene I originally appreciated when Tony recruits Peter how over-the-top the MCU wanted to NOT have Uncle Ben involved in this franchise.

Tony asks Peter what gets him up in the morning. And his answer is "Because...because I've been me my whole life, and I've had these powers for six months. And I read books and build computers...When you can do the things that I can, but you don't. And then the bad things happen...they happen because of you!"

I get the messaging. But it so dismissed that deep-rooted influence that even into modern times makes Peter Parker who he is. And even when Jon Watts was interviewed during Homecoming and asked about Uncle Ben, he made it clear they purposely excluded him.

Does the MCU’s Spider-Man Have an Uncle Ben? Jon Watts Says Yes

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The choice to completely forgo one of the most fundamental elements of Spider-Man’s mythos is an interesting one. I think most viewers assume Tom Holland’s Peter did have an Uncle Ben that he just doesn’t talk about. But when I asked Spider-Man: Homecoming director Jon Watts if Tom Holland ever even had an Uncle Ben back in the summer of 2017, he gave me a surprising answer: “It’s not something we really talked about that much.” He even described himself as “curious” as to whether Uncle Ben existed in the MCU.

 

Now Spidey is back in Far From Home and so is Watts. Once again, Uncle Ben does not appear. Apart from a single shot that makes an oblique reference to him, there’s no mention of him either. So when I got to interview Watts again, I decided would ask him the exact same question again: Did Tom Holland’s Peter Parker have an Uncle Ben? This time, Watts gave me a much more concrete, much more detailed answer.

 

“Yes. Definitely. Did you notice his initials on Peter’s suitcase?”

 

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It was like an after-thought on something so core to the character design and source material. Odd.

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On ‎5‎/‎6‎/‎2020 at 7:12 AM, Hollywood1892 said:

You made about 10 responses, and were adamant in your opinion for something you couldn't care less about?

He just doesn't like himself.

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On 5/12/2020 at 6:32 PM, Bosco685 said:

As much as I love seeing Peter Parker interacting in the larger Marvel Universe with the MCU, I was rewatching Civil War the other night after a looooong time of last watching this film. It didn't hit me until I rewatch the scene I originally appreciated when Tony recruits Peter how over-the-top the MCU wanted to NOT have Uncle Ben involved in this franchise.

Tony asks Peter what gets him up in the morning. And his answer is "Because...because I've been me my whole life, and I've had these powers for six months. And I read books and build computers...When you can do the things that I can, but you don't. And then the bad things happen...they happen because of you!"

I get the messaging. But it so dismissed that deep-rooted influence that even into modern times makes Peter Parker who he is. And even when Jon Watts was interviewed during Homecoming and asked about Uncle Ben, he made it clear they purposely excluded him.

Does the MCU’s Spider-Man Have an Uncle Ben? Jon Watts Says Yes

It was like an after-thought on something so core to the character design and source material. Odd.

Man! I never realized that...Spidermans entire existence is due to Uncle Ben, I mean imagine Batman movies without mentioning his parents and that origin story.

Now I'm :censored: off!

They clearly had no problem mentioning Tony Starks Dad relentlessly and giving him a big scene in Endgame ( but to be honest having spiderman snapped out angered me too, but it did give Stark a motivating factor)

What really bothered me was how weak and insecure they made Spiderman, but I mean don't get it twisted he question his powers in ASM (comics) numerous times, but still Spider-Man is the flagship of Marvel not Hulk, not the Avengers, and especially not Tony Stark and he owes all that to the sacrifice of Ben Parker.

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11 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said:

What really bothered me was how weak and insecure they made Spiderman, but I mean don't get it twisted he question his powers in ASM (comics) numerous times, but still Spider-Man is the flagship of Marvel not Hulk, not the Avengers, and especially not Tony Stark and he owes all that to the sacrifice of Ben Parker.

So much so, even with Ultimate Spider-Man #160 by Brian Michael Bendis his last words were about the regret he had about Uncle Ben, but also the satisfaction in saving Aunt May.

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Though it's now nigh-impossible to imagine anyone else playing hot-tempered Daily Bugle editor J. Jonah Jameson — so much so that director Jon Watts never considered another actor for the character's Spider-Man: Far From Home cameo — snaring the role wasn't as easy for J.K. Simmons as you might think.

 

In the latest episode of PeopleTV's Couch Surfing, the actor recalls his experience auditioning for Sam Raimi's first Spider-Man film. Though he had worked with the director on two prior movies, Simmons had to do, as he puts it, an "old-school, classic camera test" to win over skeptical executives. "The producers and the people at Sony, they needed to be convinced, because obviously, there were a lot of much more high-profile actors that they had in mind that would help with the box office," Simmons says. "It was very nerve-wracking."

 

Nor was it as simple as that. "It included a scene where the Green Goblin breaks through the windows and picks me up by the throat, lifts me up in the air, and is strangling me," Simmons recalls. "I'm holding the -script pages, reading the scene on the audition, but then at the same time, trying to…" (here he makes a hilariously cartoonish strangling noise) "…pretending I'm being lifted by the neck and choked."

 

Asked if audiences can expect to see him in the next MCU Spider-Man film after his post-credits Far From Home appearance, the actor replies, "I don't know if I would use the word expect." He explains that he signed on to do sequels, but the studio isn't obligated to use him in subsequent films. Still, he seems to bear no ill will about this: "It's great to have the opportunity, as these things evolve, to be one of the holdovers from the previous version."

 

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Before you go on, understand that despite everything I said above, this story should not be considered a scoop or an exclusive or anything more than just a rumor at this point because I cannot, at the moment, find a second source to confirm what I’m sharing here. That said, this checks a lot of boxes and is exactly the kind of thing I would want someone to share with me should they have heard something like it. So…here we go.

 

It appears that Marvel Studios is looking for a Joel Kinnaman-type for an unspecified role in the upcoming Untitled Spider-Man Sequel. Given all the rumors and speculation around what Spidey 3 will likely be about and what villains we are likely to see in it, it’s incredibly easy to make yourself believe that the studio wants this Kinnaman-type for a major role and one that fans are dying to see introduced in the film: Kraven…and I’ll be damned if Kinnaman isn’t perfect for it.

 

Keep in mind that when studios say they want a “Kinnaman-type” or “Allison Brie-type” that is NOT an indication that that’s the actor they’ve settled on. Those phrases are there to give the various casting agencies an idea of which of their people they should be putting up for the role or checking with to see if they’re available, interested, etc.

 

So what is a Joel Kinnaman-type and what does it tell us? It gives us a lot of info, to be honest. It means they’re looking for a Caucasian, probably 30-45, who is big (think physically imposing) but who can act as well. They don’t just want muscle here; they want someone who has some experience as a lead because this is likely a character they’re going to develop over the course of the film like they did with Michael Keaton’s Vulture and Jake Gyllenhaal’s Mysterio. So while they may not get Kinnaman for the role, you can see why he’s the “type” they want. He’s 6’2″, has a lean physique and has packed on muscle for several roles (see Altered Carbon), has a ton of experience (including work on CBMs) and, much like Kraven, has traveled the world.

 

Kinnaman is the guy I never knew I wanted as Kraven until I made this connection, but I want to urge caution one more time before signing off. As exciting as this is, there are too many questions around it to take it as fact. Is the role actually Kraven? It’s unknown but when you start piecing things together it sure seems like it. Would they actually be able to land Kinnaman? I don’t follow him too closely, but it seems like he may have an opening in his schedule this Fall/Winter. Marvel Studios scored big with both Spidey villain castings; Kinnaman would make it a hat trick.

 

As always, we’ll be working here at Murphy’s Multiverse to find actual EVIDENCE of this, so until then take this as nothing more than a wild rumor that will get you way more excited than you have any reason to be…and cross your fingers that you get to see Kinnaman as Kraven when Spider-Man 3 comes to theaters in December of 2021.

 

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Spider-Man 3 Title Rumored To Be Revealed

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A new rumor claims to know what the title of the upcoming Marvel's Spider-Man 3 will be, and it is Spider-Man: Homesick. Marvel scooper Charles Murphy posted the rumor, while also pointing towards evidence that's already out there in public, suggesting that "Homesick" is indeed the title of the third film, behind Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home. The most compelling piece of evidence seems to be magazines (Esquire, Maximum) all printing "Homesick" as the title of Spider-Man 3, while trying to give updated previews of the movies that will be releasing in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic.

 

Marvel Studios runs a tight ship when it comes to secrecy - but even they can't keep every title from leaking out. Case in point: Marvel fans guessed that the last Avengers film would be called Endgame almost immediately after Avengers: Infinity War had Doctor Strange drop the now-classic line. That sent Marvel Studios into denial overdrive, and the studio then kept fans guessing like crazy and made an entire ongoing event out of the title reveal - only for fans to learn it was indeed "Endgame" as originally thought.

 

That leak happened because a composer listed the name of the film on his resume; in that sense, big magazines outside the geek sphere may not have been aware they were sitting on privileged information, and totally published that Spider-Man 3 title. Or, this could be just another rumor or red-herring that never pans out.

 

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16 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

A new rumor claims to know what the title of the upcoming Marvel's Spider-Man 3 will be, and it is Spider-Man: Homesick.

I would call it Spider-Man: Home on the Range, and have Peter Parker go west like like in Back to the Future and then he and Kraven could have a good old fashioned western showdown in the streets of Las Vegas.

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On 5/18/2020 at 10:34 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

That's ironic.

It actually isn't. Nothing I typed was ironic at all, but you, like so many, are confused about how to properly use the word irony or ironic in a sentence.

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