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9.9 and 10
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theCapraAegagrus

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14 hours ago, eastcoaster said:

At this point graders must be hesitant to hand out 9.9s and 10s as it is a big deal. The prices asked for 9.9s and 10s are huge so they probably need a really clearcut case and approval to hand them out.

I don't want to pay 10x for a 9.9 so I'm happy with very nice 9.8s.

Well, yes, 10 Gem Mint implied literal perfection.

9.9 and 9.8 both have a flaw or two. Save yourself 90% and buy tons of other comics!

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On 8/29/2019 at 10:08 PM, eastcoaster said:

At this point graders must be hesitant to hand out 9.9s and 10s as it is a big deal. The prices asked for 9.9s and 10s are huge so they probably need a really clearcut case and approval to hand them out.

I don't want to pay 10x for a 9.9 so I'm happy with very nice 9.8s.

I thought CGC was meant to be impartial and third party? What prices fetch should be irrelevant, if it's flawless, then it should be a 10 regardless of value, otherwise what's the point in having a 10 point scale if it's rarely used, or to only be used sparingly. By using it sparingly, they are creating the prices to be 10x, it there were multiple 9.9's or 10's then the value would not be so high to begin with. I've seen 9.8 Hulk 181's better than that 9.9 Hulk 181. I've heard some dealers say it depends on who submits it as to what grade you might get when you get to the 9.8-10 criteria, but who knows.

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On 8/26/2019 at 5:19 PM, sagekilz said:

And according to that census, someone sent in a horrible 1.5 to get graded...why????

I can see why people send in low grades.  

#1 reason is they probably don't know any better.  It may look like a mid grade book but they don't realize that a staple is popped, the cover is detached or something along those lines.  A lot of people who send in books have no idea how to grade.

#2 sentimental value...I sent in a Wolverine 1 knowing that it would grade out at low to mid grade because it was a book from my childhood and I didn't care about the grade.  I more wanted it slabbed and on my wall for memories of reading it and nostalgia related to my brother and I reading and collecting comics in the 80's.  No pressing/cleaning or anything.  Slabbed as is and that's how I wanted it.

On 8/26/2019 at 5:43 PM, comicquant said:

They can say they have the lowest graded NM 98!

Not anymore :roflmao:

I'm not a big fan of these CGC custom labels but this one is perfect for it.  Posted by ComicTom101 on Instagram.

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44 minutes ago, Keys_Collector said:
On 8/26/2019 at 4:43 PM, comicquant said:

They can say they have the lowest graded NM 98!

Not anymore :roflmao:

I'm not a big fan of these CGC custom labels but this one is perfect for it.  Posted by ComicTom101 on Instagram.

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There's a purple label CGC 0.5 for New Mutants #98 on the CGC Census, so that blue label 1.0 is just too awesome to be the lowest graded.

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On 8/24/2019 at 3:17 PM, whyaduck38 said:

Does anyone know the qualification for getting a 9.9 or a 10. Seems like no matter the quality of my submissions, I can't get past that 9.8 threshold. 

To beat the 9.8 treshold, your comic has to be flawless. So no production defects. All corners have to be sharp, especially the ones near the spine. There can be no slight spine split or roundness at those corners. There can be no bit of white from creasing when the comic was folded and staples. Speaking of the staples, there can be no small tears near where the staples hit. Also the comic cannot be off center.

Take out any comic and actually check if you can spot any kind of flaw. If you can't, post scans here and I and others will let you know what is holding it back.

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On 8/29/2019 at 5:08 PM, eastcoaster said:

At this point graders must be hesitant to hand out 9.9s and 10s as it is a big deal. The prices asked for 9.9s and 10s are huge so they probably need a really clearcut case and approval to hand them out.

I don't want to pay 10x for a 9.9 so I'm happy with very nice 9.8s.

To be honest, the graders are going to give a book the grade they feel best represents that particular book. If they feel it's a 9.9 or a 10.0, that's what they'll give it. The "approval process" would come from one of the primary graders; they would likely make the call as to whether or not the book receives a 9.9 or a 10.0. 

Since these perfect specimens are so rare, they usually do create a bit of interest in the grading room...but not for very long.

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On 9/11/2020 at 3:15 AM, herc2000 said:

I thought CGC was meant to be impartial and third party? What prices fetch should be irrelevant, if it's flawless, then it should be a 10 regardless of value, otherwise what's the point in having a 10 point scale if it's rarely used, or to only be used sparingly. By using it sparingly, they are creating the prices to be 10x, it there were multiple 9.9's or 10's then the value would not be so high to begin with. I've seen 9.8 Hulk 181's better than that 9.9 Hulk 181. I've heard some dealers say it depends on who submits it as to what grade you might get when you get to the 9.8-10 criteria, but who knows.

I didn't mean they are biased, just that there is a very high bar for a 9.9 or 10.

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On 9/28/2020 at 5:59 AM, valiantman said:

There's a purple label CGC 0.5 for New Mutants #98 on the CGC Census, so that blue label 1.0 is just too awesome to be the lowest graded.

I bet the graders got that .5 Restored in their hands, and tossed it under that wobbly table in the break room for a bit till they got around to it.

Instead of gently handling it, they tossed it to each other for grading while saying WTH is this! 

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I’ve got one 9.9 that I bought raw and sent in for grading without a press.  It’s a Detective Comics #1000, Third Eye Comics variant...and it was pretty much flawless.  It was the first one to grade 9.9, based on my CGC research.  I’ve got one 10.0 that’s a .999 pure silver replica cover of Detective Comics #27, but no 10.0 comics.  I don’t hold my breath for getting more 9.9/10.0, so I’m happy with what I got. :banana:

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On 8/24/2019 at 9:17 AM, whyaduck38 said:

Does anyone know the qualification for getting a 9.9 or a 10. Seems like no matter the quality of my submissions, I can't get past that 9.8 threshold. 

First and foremost, I am so happy to see CGC is providing Grader Notes for 9.8s and 9.9s.

I just discovered you can have the following defects and get a 9.9 for the only 9.9 graded Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 (Marvel, 1968). 

CGC Grader Notes:

Spine Small Chip Out

Top Front Cover Small Crease

I looked at the comic very close, and I believe the small crease is above the CCA box. However, the certification number did not appear in the registry when I looked it up: 0010138012. I'd like to know when this comic was graded.

 

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On 3/16/2024 at 7:47 PM, Upgrayedd2 said:

First and foremost, I am so happy to see CGC is providing Grader Notes for 9.8s and 9.9s.

I just discovered you can have the following defects and get a 9.9 for the only 9.9 graded Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 (Marvel, 1968). 

CGC Grader Notes:

Spine Small Chip Out

Top Front Cover Small Crease

I looked at the comic very close, and I believe the small crease is above the CCA box. However, the certification number did not appear in the registry when I looked it up: 0010138012. I'd like to know when this comic was graded.

 

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02/21/2000
That is crazy. There appears to be no consistency in grading, and silver age seems to get graded much more lenient.
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I’m not one to nitpick grades since I realize they’re somewhat subjective but I recently sent in a IDW Transformers variant metal cover. And when I say metal I’m not talking thin foil cover, this cover was solid METAL like a dvd steel book. I got 9.8. Now if a cover that can probably stop a bullet can’t rate a 10, I just don’t know what would.
 

feel like there’s just graders who have it in their heads that 9.8 = flawless and 10 doesn’t exist which is just preposterous & disqualifying 

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On 3/18/2024 at 7:25 PM, Cman429 said:

feel like there’s just graders who have it in their heads that 9.8 = flawless and 10 doesn’t exist which is just preposterous & disqualifying 

 

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On 8/24/2019 at 2:17 PM, whyaduck38 said:

Does anyone know the qualification for getting a 9.9 or a 10. 

Yes. They are published on the CGC website. 

You will probably never submit one. Unicorn grades. 

The poster in this thread who was excited about all the 9.9s and 10s he received submitted a bunch of Zenescope books. {EDIT - upon second look, I guess they aren't Zenescope books. The whole "light cartoon porn" genre doesn't appeal to me, but I'm guessing the publishers use a similar approach]. They use heavy duty cover stock, and the chances are much better with those books. Same with "metal" covers and the like. 

But a regular ole' comic? I wouldn't hold my breath. 

And if you think your 9.8 deserves a higher grade, you probably missed something. :wink:

 

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