Zilla1982 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Need a little help from the community. I was wondering how bad will this white out flaw bring down the value of this book. Is it still worth getting graded? Is this considered a restoration? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I would probably roll the dice on this one and hope for the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The restoration question is a good one. Might be worthwhile calling CGC to ask. They usually will tell you to send in a picture. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterymachine Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I don't think it would be classified as restoration as it is not improving the book but just creating another problem for the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, mysterymachine said: I don't think it would be classified as restoration as it is not improving the book but just creating another problem for the book. I would tend to think that putting white out on top of writing is absolutely an intent to improve the look of the book...just like adding color touch is an attempt to improve the look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualitycomix Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 I'm going to say that white out is not considered restoration. It will bring down the grade of the book however. 3.5/4.0 The Lions Den and mysterymachine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterymachine Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Motor City Rob said: I would tend to think that putting white out on top of writing is absolutely an intent to improve the look of the book...just like adding color touch is an attempt to improve the look. It is an attempt to improve the book just like rubbing an eraser over a pencil mark and removing the pencil mark along with the ink on the cover. Would you call that restoration?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, mysterymachine said: It is an attempt to improve the book just like rubbing an eraser over a pencil mark and removing the pencil mark along with the ink on the cover. Would you call that restoration?. Removing something from the book that was not an original part of the book, as in your example, I would not call restoration. Adding something to the book, like color touch, glue, new staples, tear seals, etc, I would absolutely call restoration...as does CGC. In this case, something is being added to the book to try and improve it. Sounds like restoration to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) My vote is restoration, but probably something a professional could easily remove. Good resto removal candidate...imo. Although that spine severely impacts grade and should be factored with your cost-benefit analysis (aka how much resto removal costs, and how much removal of said resto increases value of book). Edited August 25, 2019 by Callaway29 Dino-Mutt and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Rob Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, Callaway29 said: My vote is restoration, but probably something a professional could easily remove. Good resto removal candidate...imo. Although that spine severely impacts grade and should be factored with your cost-benefit analysis (aka how much resto removal costs, and how much removal of said resto increases value of book). Agreed!!!!👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Seems like color touch to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterymachine Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 3:18 PM, Motor City Rob said: Removing something from the book that was not an original part of the book, as in your example, I would not call restoration. Adding something to the book, like color touch, glue, new staples, tear seals, etc, I would absolutely call restoration...as does CGC. In this case, something is being added to the book to try and improve it. Sounds like restoration to me. Well then I guess we can just take an eraser to it until both the White out and the date stamp is wiped clean. Thanks for the clarification.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino-Mutt Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 IMO, restoration. Book has been altered to improve appearance with no regards to conservation, or could a pressing be considered the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) Frustrating someone would take such extreme measures over a date stamp. Heck I often consider date stamps a bonus... Edited August 27, 2019 by Callaway29 Krismusic and Dino-Mutt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 yeah that sucks about the white out I would talk to CCS and have them look at if it can be removed and talk to CGC and see if they consider this restoration. but the condition of the book is not high so definitely might have to check the cost to potential on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qualitycomix Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 And the definitive answer is yes, it is considered resto:https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/restoration/ Krismusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krismusic Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 18 hours ago, qualitycomix said: And the definitive answer is yes, it is considered resto:https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/restoration/ thanks for that clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davet75 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 8/27/2019 at 6:59 PM, qualitycomix said: And the definitive answer is yes, it is considered resto:https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/restoration/ Thanks for clarifying. For those too lazy to click the link and read: CGC defines restoration as treatments intended to return the comic book to a known or assumed state through the addition of non-original material. Examples of restoration include: Color touch. Using pigment to hide color flecks, color flakes, and larger areas of missing color. Examples of pigments may include paint (acrylic, oil, watercolor, etc.), pencil crayon, pastel, pen, marker, white-out , etc. Color touch is sometimes called inpainting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Yikes yikes yikes yikes yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
