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CGC 6.0 s, why so many?
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10 minutes ago, justafan said:

It's the natural high point in the Bell Curve for grades and submissions.  There are likely several reasons for this.  Some have already been said but look at any individual books (mostly SA/BA/CA) where there is a spread of grades from 05 to 9.8 you'll tend to see this.  Moderns and GA may not reflect this as much for those books having a majority of the grades being on opposite ends of the grading scale.  Many GA books only exist from 0.5 to 8.0 which may push the peak of the curve further down to the left at the 4.0 and 5.0s.  Whereas the moderns tend to have more quantity in higher grades pushing the curve more to the right in the 7.0 and 8.0s.

Why this curve is becoming more pronounced in the 6.0 grade from previous years may be due to certain factors:

1. growth/saturation of comics being subbed by newer submitters who are not quite savvy at grading where a 6.0 looks like a 9.0 to them and not using the pre-screen option.

2. Value of mid-grades becoming worthy of submission due to the rising prices of higher grades

3. Growth of resubs/newsubs due to pressing from lower grades

4. Long held collections in mid-grade being prepped for sale by owners looking to cash out

5. Lots of otherwise VF/NM books being subbed with rusty staples, detatched centerfold on 1 staple, stains, minor spine split, or other single major defects that drop an otherwise VF/NM book down to a FINE.

6. restoration removal subs dropping an 8.0 PLOD to a 6.0 Universal

7. bunch of previously autographed books prior to CGC's signature series being submitted and requesting the Universal label instead of the Qualified label.

On the lighter side of things it could also be:

8. CGC hired a guy with meat hooks for hands to handle the submissions rendering otherwise 9.x books to 6.0 after a few punctures and drops

9. USPS deliveries of submissions to CGC have been frequently run over by the delivery trucks.

10. CGC is using a new automated grading machine that rips the comic out of the bag to speed up the grading processes.

11. CGC has tightened up their grading standards assigning a 6.0 to anything that isn't a 9.8 and hoping to encourage resubs.

I both <3 and :roflmao: at this post...

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10 hours ago, James J Johnson said:

As the prices inch up on high grade, the relative value of the lesser condition books will start to reach the submission threshold; the value of the book making the cost of submission sensible.

This.

Used to be slabbing anything other than an uber key in 6.0 didnt make sense. Now there are BA keys worth hundreds even in 6.0, and some even worth thousands. Those used to sit in mylar, now they are getting graded. 

Also there are a finite number of books out there and as someone finishes getting his "definitely should be graded" books graded s/he starts to look at the "might be worth getting graded" books for possible submission..

Also as CGC gets more known in the comic community beyond the hardcore collectors/traders/retailers you get the more amateur collectors who might not be quite as fastidious about justifications for what shoud/shouldnt be graded, also the amateur collector might not be as good of a raw grader so they "thought' they sent in 8.0s, but in reality they were 6.0s, where as the more veteran/trained collector when sending in 8.0s got back 8.0s. 

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5 hours ago, justafan said:

It's the natural high point in the Bell Curve for grades and submissions.  There are likely several reasons for this.  Some have already been said but look at any individual books (mostly SA/BA/CA) where there is a spread of grades from 05 to 9.8 you'll tend to see this.  Moderns and GA may not reflect this as much for those books having a majority of the grades being on opposite ends of the grading scale.  Many GA books only exist from 0.5 to 8.0 which may push the peak of the curve further down to the left at the 4.0 and 5.0s.  Whereas the moderns tend to have more quantity in higher grades pushing the curve more to the right in the 7.0 and 8.0s.

Why this curve is becoming more pronounced in the 6.0 grade from previous years may be due to certain factors:

1. growth/saturation of comics being subbed by newer submitters who are not quite savvy at grading where a 6.0 looks like a 9.0 to them and not using the pre-screen option.

2. Value of mid-grades becoming worthy of submission due to the rising prices of higher grades

3. Growth of resubs/newsubs due to pressing from lower grades

4. Long held collections in mid-grade being prepped for sale by owners looking to cash out

5. Lots of otherwise VF/NM books being subbed with rusty staples, detatched centerfold on 1 staple, stains, minor spine split, or other single major defects that drop an otherwise VF/NM book down to a FINE.

6. restoration removal subs dropping an 8.0 PLOD to a 6.0 Universal

7. bunch of previously autographed books prior to CGC's signature series being submitted and requesting the Universal label instead of the Qualified label.

On the lighter side of things it could also be:

8. CGC hired a guy with meat hooks for hands to handle the submissions rendering otherwise 9.x books to 6.0 after a few punctures and drops

9. USPS deliveries of submissions to CGC have been frequently run over by the delivery trucks.

10. CGC is using a new automated grading machine that rips the comic out of the bag to speed up the grading processes.

11. CGC has tightened up their grading standards assigning a 6.0 to anything that isn't a 9.8 and hoping to encourage resubs.

 

 

 

 

Another reason could be that the graders are lazy and 6.0 is a good catch-all grade without even looking. Over a career a grader would be within 4.0 on almost ever book graded.

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3 hours ago, thunsicker said:

I know this is a joke thread by Bedrock in response to something posted in the Gold forum, but...

I absolutely love GA comics in 6.0-7.0 grade.  They present very nicely and don't generally have the prices that anything above 7.0 have.

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I am hurt by the insinuation, sir.

Hurt I say. 

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