adamstrange Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Bronty said: Does anyone have any insight on why Keller sold abruptly? He was a real estate developer. The stated reason was collecting other things but this was a couple years after the Financial Crisis so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted September 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2019 6 hours ago, sfcityduck said: One question/correction: Quote On or about April 11, 2014, the 9.0 copy was listed on Jay Parrino's website "The Mint" with a note to call for price. Sometime thereafter the price was changed to $350,000. I know Parrino PAID $350K for the Pay Copy of MC 1. Are you sure he listed this copy for $350K? Below are images cut outs of the webpage header section and listing area of the MC#1 books that appeared on Jay Parrino's The Mint website on June 10, 2004. The Comic Inventory list is one webpage in length and quite long (A-Z), otherwise I'd posting it here. AJD, sfcityduck, telerites and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 hours ago, G.A.tor said: 23 hours ago, tth2 said: I'm a bit confused, then. So when and where was this copy identified as the Windy City copy? Only in discussions on these Boards? From MasterChef's very helpful timeline, it doesn't appear that it was ever identified as the Windy City copy by CGC or by Heritage in any auction listing. Gary C identified it as the Windy City and Jim Halprin told us that they’re having it added to the label as we speak Great news! Thank you. comicwiz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Added to the census and it’s predecessor grade deleted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, MasterChief said: Below are images cut outs of the webpage header section and listing area of the MC#1 books that appeared on Jay Parrino's The Mint website on June 10, 2004. The Comic Inventory list is one webpage in length and quite long (A-Z), otherwise I'd posting it here. It's just fun to look back at the listings and realize many of the books are worth their 2004 asking price. Larryw7 and porcupine48 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicwiz Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 9:51 PM, porcupine48 said: This thread is one of my favourites this year @MasterChief porcupine48 and comicdonna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 MasterChief is the man! Randall Dowling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterChief Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 As of September 26, 2019, Certification Information now reflects the Windy City pedigree designation. Moondog and comicdonna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post szav Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 hours ago, MasterChief said: As of September 26, 2019, Certification Information now reflects the Windy City pedigree designation. Nice to see the provenance recognized but if I owned the book, I wouldn't dream of risking a reholder on a book of this value … on the other hand whoever owns it didn't mind bringing this 80 year old artifact to the brink of destruction by running it through the pressing wringer for the umpteenth time... the people who play this game are nuts. PopKulture, sacentaur, Primetime and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 4 hours ago, szav said: Nice to see the provenance recognized but if I owned the book, I wouldn't dream of risking a reholder on a book of this value … on the other hand whoever owns it didn't mind bringing this 80 year old artifact to the brink of destruction by running it through the pressing wringer for the umpteenth time... the people who play this game are nuts. I realize that there are those who may not know of my opinion on the matter as I have not posted in a few years. So, to be clear, I remain resolute in my position that any form of manipulation, pressing or otherwise, is restoration and should be disclosed to the prospective buyer so that an informed buying decision can be made. That said, there is compelling visual evidence that suggests the physical aspects of this book have been altered through manipulation so that the book appears to be in a better state of preservation or more valuable than it otherwise would be. IMHO, this book is not the "best of the best" regardless of the grade that adorns the label. That honor goes to the Pay Copy as there is no evidence to suggest, to my knowledge anyway, that it has undergone the treatment during the certification age. GreatCaesarsGhost, Randall Dowling, sfcityduck and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalisbest Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 14 hours ago, MasterChief said: I realize that there are those who may not know of my opinion on the matter as I have not posted in a few years. So, to be clear, I remain resolute in my position that any form of manipulation, pressing or otherwise, is restoration and should be disclosed to the prospective buyer so that an informed buying decision can be made. That said, there is compelling visual evidence that suggests the physical aspects of this book have been altered through manipulation so that the book appears to be in a better state of preservation or more valuable than it otherwise would be. IMHO, this book is not the "best of the best" regardless of the grade that adorns the label. That honor goes to the Pay Copy as there is no evidence to suggest, to my knowledge anyway, that it has undergone the treatment during the certification age. I personally, have zero problems with pressing and happily disclaim that it's "restoration" in any negative sense. While I prefer the Pay Copy slightly over the Windy City, grade has nothing to do with why -- the Pay Copy appears to have a slightly better color strike, and the registration is without a doubt, better. That being said, both copies have famous and worthwhile backstories and the person(s) who currently/will own either can hold them with justifiable pride. I think Marvel #1's day will come again -- it's not in danger of turning into Prince Valiant Feature Book #26 or Red Raven #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 1 minute ago, originalisbest said: it's not in danger of turning into Prince Valiant Feature Book #26 or Red Raven #1 I have a Red Raven 1 PopKulture and originalisbest 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, telerites said: I have a Red Raven 1 I wish I had one ! originalisbest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
originalisbest Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, telerites said: I have a Red Raven 1 Well now I feel bad. If it helps, I don't have one, and would happily choose it over a Feature Book #26! These kinds of discussions are fun but somewhat silly for me to engage in anyway, since I'm not in danger of ever getting any books of that type of caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, batman_fan said: I wish I had one ! Hey now, that's a Timely - you're one of those DC guys 25 minutes ago, originalisbest said: Well now I feel bad. If it helps, I don't have one, and would happily choose it over a Feature Book #26! These kinds of discussions are fun but somewhat silly for me to engage in anyway, since I'm not in danger of ever getting any books of that type of caliber. I was messing with you. I am happy to have a RR 1 and back when I got my first guide #4, Marvel Comics was the book I always wanted to own. The cover freaked me out and I thought, hey that's not the HT I know from the FF Since then Cap 1 has surpassed it as my #1 grail. But unless I sell multiple organs or hit a lottery, I will own neither. originalisbest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman2006 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, originalisbest said: Well now I feel bad. If it helps, I don't have one, and would happily choose it over a Feature Book #26! These kinds of discussions are fun but somewhat silly for me to engage in anyway, since I'm not in danger of ever getting any books of that type of caliber. I have a Feature Book #26 That's okay, I still it . telerites and originalisbest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post batman_fan Posted September 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 30, 2019 22 minutes ago, telerites said: Hey now, that's a Timely - you're one of those DC guys Don't tell anyone but I snagged this book. It is sort of like get tired of steak and lobster and just wanting a good old fashion hamburger. MasterChief, sacentaur, originalisbest and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, batman_fan said: Don't tell anyone but I snagged this book. It is sort of like get tired of steak and lobster and just wanting a good old fashion hamburger. That's PREMIUM hamburger originalisbest and batman_fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Hamburger? That's just a form of steak deserving of A1! I may be an outlier on this board, but I much prefer Human Torch covers to Captain America covers. The HT covers on MMC and HT are just so much more colorful and full of action that I have to give them the nod. Schomburg clearly drew a lot of inspiration from the HT. I've just thought since I saw the OPB No. 10 cover that Schomburg just loved how he could use the HT to make covers more colorful (reds and yellows) and full of movement. CA cover seem more muted in color and action to me. originalisbest and batman_fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, originalisbest said: I personally, have zero problems with pressing and happily disclaim that it's "restoration" in any negative sense. While I prefer the Pay Copy slightly over the Windy City, grade has nothing to do with why -- the Pay Copy appears to have a slightly better color strike, and the registration is without a doubt, better. That being said, both copies have famous and worthwhile backstories and the person(s) who currently/will own either can hold them with justifiable pride. I think Marvel #1's day will come again -- it's not in danger of turning into Prince Valiant Feature Book #26 or Red Raven #1. Any discussion that references FB #26 and Red Raven #1 must also reference Tough Kid Squad Comics #1. Edited October 1, 2019 by pemart1966 originalisbest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
