Question about qualified grades
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I saw this item up on ebay. It is a Fantastic Four 48 remaindered copy graded by CGC as a qualified 0.5. My understanding is that qualified grades are given without regard to the major flaw that otherwise brings them down. Calling a remaindered book incomplete seems it should get a universal 0.5 grade. Qualifying the book should grade it higher, 2.0 or 3.0 or something, the grade the book would get with the full cover and then qualifying it by saying 1/3 of the front cover missing and incomplete if they determine that's what it is. But a qualified 0.5 would grade as a 0.5 without being remaindered but since it has part of the cover missing, it is qualified. This is the link I saw this book: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fantastic-Four-48-CGC-0-5-1st-Full-Silver-Surfer-amp-Galactus-Qualified-/254291903075?hash=item3b34fa8263%3Ag%3AUbUAAOSwfx9dJYlL&nma=true&si=JiL%2B%2Fz1hCM3qDOXfWowNY5BZEDM%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I'd be curious to hear what people think about this. My understanding is this practice is a departure from previous methods of grading and qualifying.

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I have a qualified 0.5 (not the FF48).  I agree with you.  It should be a universal 0.5.  I believe these are mistakes.

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14 minutes ago, Yorick said:

I have a qualified 0.5 (not the FF48).  I agree with you.  It should be a universal 0.5.  I believe these are mistakes.

It's educational and entertaining to perform these searches on eBay: CGC Qualified .5, CGC Universal .5, CGC Incomplete. Enjoy...

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Like Yorick, I also believe that the FF #48 example you cite (shown above) should be in a Universal holder (since "⅓ of Front Cover Missing" is not a "qualifying" defect).  Although we all wish the graders were 100% consistent in their application of CGC's grading standards, they are not.  Unfortunately, some of these inconsistencies (or mistakes) are missed during the final QA/QC review (which may or may not still take place).  This being said, there are a few situations where a 0.5 PR copy would correctly be encapsulated with an other-than-blue label:

  • If the book has a CGC-witnessed signature, it will be encapsulated with a yellow (Signature Series) label.
  • If the book has restoration, it will be encapsulated with a purple (Restored) label.
  • If the book has a married cover or married pages (which have always been regarded by CGC as "qualifying" defects), it will be encapsulated with a green (Qualified) label.

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The bottom line here is that not all 0.5 PR Qualified Grade books are mistakes.  :preach:

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On 10/8/2019 at 9:00 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

What if the submitter requested a Qualified label, thinking it would receive a higher theoretical grade?

:tonofbricks:

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On 10/8/2019 at 8:58 AM, zzutak said:

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Like Yorick, I also believe that the FF #48 example you cite (shown above) should be in a Universal holder (since "⅓ of Front Cover Missing" is not a "qualifying" defect).  Although we all wish the graders were 100% consistent in their application of CGC's grading standards, they are not.  Unfortunately, some of these inconsistencies (or mistakes) are missed during the final QA/QC review (which may or may not still take place).  This being said, there are a few situations where a 0.5 PR copy would correctly be encapsulated with an other-than-blue label:

  • If the book has a CGC-witnessed signature, it will be encapsulated with a yellow (Signature Series) label.
  • If the book has restoration, it will be encapsulated with a purple (Restored) label.
  • If the book has a married cover or married pages (which have always been regarded by CGC as "qualifying" defects), it will be encapsulated with a green (Qualified) label.

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The bottom line here is that not all 0.5 PR Qualified Grade books are mistakes.  :preach:

Good one, zzutak! You now understand the system better than the majority of the folks working for CGC...

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On 10/8/2019 at 5:58 AM, zzutak said:

The bottom line here is that not all 0.5 PR Qualified Grade books are mistakes. 

I do not agree, and it does NOT matter (unless I start my own grading company...)! :bigsmile:

Marrying pages/covers/whatever should result in a purple label.  I understand yellow being applicable to any comic, and it's great to see the FF48 image along with that Hulk and Showcase!

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