vodou Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, exitmusicblue said: I find it cool (even if obvious) that both HA and PIH decided to include EQ and Frankie in comic OA auctions... knowing that's where the obsession and $$$ would be for these pieces. So you're saying if the Louvre is ever really hard up to keep the lights on (or fund one former director or another's golden parachute...) we will see Miss Lisa in a comic art auction*? Because -for certain- it won't be the fine art folks chasing Chiaroscuro #6 cover! *IMO this one would go to Hake's. They are very aggressive at scoring major consignments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCarter27 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Share Posted December 13, 2019 Just so I am consistently a rotten, dirty pinko commu-socialist... I hope whoever sold the Frankie cover for the $1M minus $35K windfall (or whatever the consignor's cost basis was) considers kicking back a percentage to Liz Wrightson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdealer Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 22 minutes ago, BCarter27 said: Just so I am consistently a rotten, dirty pinko commu-socialist... I hope whoever sold the Frankie cover for the $1M minus $35K windfall (or whatever the consignor's cost basis was) considers kicking back a percentage to Liz Wrightson. What would be more appropriate is for the consignor to kick back some dough to Bernie's kids. I'm sure they could use it. BCarter27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, gumbydarnit said: You know what would end this debate is if a certain someone won it... there is NO DOUBT that it will soon be made into a Marvel Comics Frankenstein #1 cover with all the title graphics GLUED to the art. There you have it... the first comic book art to hit 1M! Glue + scissors + Inquire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitmusicblue Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 1 hour ago, vodou said: So you're saying if the Louvre is ever really hard up to keep the lights on (or fund one former director or another's golden parachute...) we will see Miss Lisa in a comic art auction*? Because -for certain- it won't be the fine art folks chasing Chiaroscuro #6 cover! *IMO this one would go to Hake's. They are very aggressive at scoring major consignments. You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 11 hours ago, exitmusicblue said: I love it, feels like we're being fine art elitists with this stuff. That isn't comic original art, no sir! It's from... a book. Gasp :O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 9 hours ago, vodou said: Where's Detective #28 cover? I'm not as sophisticated an OA collector as the rest of you, but personally I'd prefer to have the Detective #27 cover. grapeape and Rick2you2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 For those who bought anything in the Profiles sale: 1. Did you get an invoice via e-mail today? 2. Did it say that you're responsible for arranging shipping yourself with a shipper of your choosing? For me, the answer to both is "yes". I'm just trying to see if everyone is in the same boat, or whether this only affects those who won certain lots (e.g., oversized and/or framed pieces). I don't believe the piece I bought is particularly large, though, it might be framed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevemmg Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I received my invoice tonight, and yes, for their 28% buyers premium, apparently offer no service at all. It would appear that they do not pack your items for shipment, instead somehow we are responsible for calling strangers to somehow get these expensive items, pack them and then likely charge a premium for their service? Really seems like a pain, and had I realized how this worked, wouldn’t have participated in the auction. I feel just slightly better now that I’ve ranted. Back to your regularly scheduled program. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaykza Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, delekkerste said: For those who bought anything in the Profiles sale: 1. Did you get an invoice via e-mail today? 2. Did it say that you're responsible for arranging shipping yourself with a shipper of your choosing? For me, the answer to both is "yes". I'm just trying to see if everyone is in the same boat, or whether this only affects those who won certain lots (e.g., oversized and/or framed pieces). I don't believe the piece I bought is particularly large, though, it might be framed. Yes and curious if anyone here has done this before. Are the recommended shippers reliable and familiar with what they need to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) I have done this for a piece valued at 8k and framed. I posted on Facebook and got several leads. PIH has a list of people they work with as well. The price quotes I got varied immensely from full concierge to Postal Annex. I went with the latter. Email below. All went well. >>> Assuming that we have the right measurements for the poster, and I can safely pack it in two boxes, with outside measurements of 31x29x7 inches, the shipping estimate, including $6,500.00 insurance is as follows: $146.02 UPS Ground, with signature confirmation $ 67.00 Packing material and labor $ 20.00 Pick up fee Please let me know if you wish to proceed, and I'll arrange the pick up. Thank you. Robert 818-707-9197 >>> Profiles gave me the following emails to contact for quotes: artpack@artpackco.com,Wendy@beverlypacking.com,icarbajal@usart.com,danny@fineartship.com,store2906@theupsstore.com,store1093@theupsstore.com Concierge quotes topped 1300 dollars, if you can believe it. In the end I went with Robert at Postal Annex over the two UPS stores (that oddly enough provided different quotes). Robert at Postal Annex came well regarded from Facebook. NB: Insuring for the bp is apparently pointless as it isn't considered part of the value. Edited December 17, 2019 by cstojano Twanj and jaykza 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitmusicblue Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Didn't bid on anything; but this is kind of ridiculous. >:O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, cstojano said: I have done this for a piece valued at 8k and framed. I posted on Facebook and got several leads. PIH has a list of people they work with as well. The price quotes I got varied immensely from full concierge to Postal Annex. I went with the latter. Email below. All went well. >>> Assuming that we have the right measurements for the poster, and I can safely pack it in two boxes, with outside measurements of 31x29x7 inches, the shipping estimate, including $6,500.00 insurance is as follows: $146.02 UPS Ground, with signature confirmation $ 67.00 Packing material and labor $ 20.00 Pick up fee Please let me know if you wish to proceed, and I'll arrange the pick up. Thank you. Robert 818-707-9197 >>> Profiles gave me the following emails to contact for quotes: artpack@artpackco.com,Wendy@beverlypacking.com,icarbajal@usart.com,danny@fineartship.com,store2906@theupsstore.com,store1093@theupsstore.com Concierge quotes topped 1300 dollars, if you can believe it. In the end I went with Robert at Postal Annex over the two UPS stores (that oddly enough provided different quotes). Robert at Postal Annex came well regarded from Facebook. NB: Insuring for the bp is apparently pointless as it isn't considered part of the value. First, not including the BP in the value is absurd. I can see tax not being considered part of the value, as that amount varies depending on where you live (and can be zero if you live in certain states or have a reseller number) and has nothing to do with the piece itself. But, all people figure in BP to determine what they're willing to pay. By not including the BP in the value, you could only insure half of your purchase price if you bought a piece at an auction house that charged a 100% BP. Makes no sense... Second, I've had a number of pieces shipped from Heritage via a third party shipper; the last time I did it, I was able to get it shipped pretty cheaply since I had them ship FedEx with a direct signature required and was able to waive the insurance since I was covered by my own policy. Unfortunately, it looks like all the budget shipping options provided here use UPS, which Collectibles Insurance does not cover. Still, it looks like it would be cheaper to use UPS and have it insured by them rather than to hire a concierge shipper and have them use FedEx, so, I may end up going that route as well. EDIT: looks like the Postal Annex can ship via FedEx. Edited December 17, 2019 by delekkerste Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Here's one of the recommended shippers that PIH provided (screen grab of home page is below). Good to know that they will "handel" your art shipping as well as "analize" your need and pricing. I'm going to leave my anus out of this and use someone else I think... Squeezy McSphincter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aokartman Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 This is such a first world problem, that I can't get too worked up about it, but why don't the auction houses get it? People who are bidding from home based on pictures from their laptop want shipping service. Not too hard to figure out. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NelsonAI Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Call Mankuta and see if he is available for hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 44 minutes ago, delekkerste said: Good to know that they will "handel" your art shipping as well as "analize" your need and pricing. Common saying: "You only get one chance to make a good first impression." Corollary to the common saying: "Don't let people's first impression of you be that you're some fake Russian hacker site." 46 minutes ago, delekkerste said: I'm going to leave my anus out of this and use someone else I think... Preserved this quote for posteriority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twanj Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I wasn't seriously considering bidding on anything there, but really glad I didn't now! John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCarter27 Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 hours ago, delekkerste said: all the budget shipping options provided here use UPS Re: Collectors Insurance... per my last call from them: Quote Signature Required FedEX, Registered and Express USPS for $50-60,000 For international, this includes DHL, Airborne Express, FedEx international. Note: USPS does not offer signature for international. Or you can pay Collectors Insurance for a special addon endorsement for shipments over $60K. You might want to double-check with CI on these details, but USPS Express Signature Required has been a good and sometimes better option for me than FedEx Express in cases like this. You could also just make your own label and email the PDF to the shipper. For FedEx you can just ballpark the weight and dimensions because they re-measure them anyway for billing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstojano Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 hours ago, delekkerste said: First, not including the BP in the value is absurd. I can see tax not being considered part of the value, as that amount varies depending on where you live (and can be zero if you live in certain states or have a reseller number) and has nothing to do with the piece itself. But, all people figure in BP to determine what they're willing to pay. By not including the BP in the value, you could only insure half of your purchase price if you bought a piece at an auction house that charged a 100% BP. Makes no sense... Second, I've had a number of pieces shipped from Heritage via a third party shipper; the last time I did it, I was able to get it shipped pretty cheaply since I had them ship FedEx with a direct signature required and was able to waive the insurance since I was covered by my own policy. Unfortunately, it looks like all the budget shipping options provided here use UPS, which Collectibles Insurance does not cover. Still, it looks like it would be cheaper to use UPS and have it insured by them rather than to hire a concierge shipper and have them use FedEx, so, I may end up going that route as well. EDIT: looks like the Postal Annex can ship via FedEx. No arguments from me on the bp thing. I found it quite ridiculous, but then you know that the purpose of postal insurance of any kind is to screw you as many ways as possible. Given that every random po-dunk regional auction on liveauctioneers offers shipping I, too, find it surprising that PIH does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
