migmtl76 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Hi all, my friend wanted to have an idea of the grade of his AF 15. I'll say it right away it's NOT for sale, so please don't message me The main flaws are : 1) Blue stain at the bottom of the comics. It go through to about page 10. 2) Damage above the top staple 3) Crease lines on cover Other then those flaws very nice book ! Thanks for your opinions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversurfer275 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 (edited) Holy moly man that’s amazing in any grade but due to the wrinkles I would say 5.5 maybe 5 could be wrong but yeah congrats to your friend Edited November 14, 2019 by silversufer27 migmtl76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wipple Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Great book- The blue stain will be hammered by cgc. I'm going 3-3.5. You sure its not for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migmtl76 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wipple said: Great book- The blue stain will be hammered by cgc. I'm going 3-3.5. You sure its not for sale? Yeah the stain is a killer. No sorry not for sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrover Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Man... great book... I'd like to go back in time and stop that blue gunk from ever hitting the cover... ...fire up the Delorean!!!! I'll say optimistically 3.5... and it would probably be one of the best-looking AF15's ever at that grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migmtl76 Posted November 14, 2019 Author Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldrover said: Man... great book... I'd like to go back in time and stop that blue gunk from ever hitting the cover... ...fire up the Delorean!!!! I'll say optimistically 3.5... and it would probably be one of the best-looking AF15's ever at that grade. yeah I agree, I looked at other 3.5 and they looked way less good. The stain doesn't ruin the eye appeal since it's at the the bottom of the comic. I wonder how CGC would evaluate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 4.0 migmtl76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Is that color touch along the spine or just shadowing? Krismusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migmtl76 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, joeypost said: Is that color touch along the spine or just shadowing? In the back, it's the (bad) wrap of the book front the front. Is that what you meant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 4.0 at best due to the stain... great comic none the less FoggyNelson and migmtl76 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, migmtl76 said: In the back, it's the (bad) wrap of the book front the front. Is that what you meant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migmtl76 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 47 minutes ago, joeypost said: Is that color touch along the spine or just shadowing? joeypost i think you might be right. Here are to bigger pics. The brown seems darker at the top. Can color touch be removed? If so, how expensive is it to do this ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, migmtl76 said: joeypost i think you might be right. Here are to bigger pics. The brown seems darker at the top. Can color touch be removed? If so, how expensive is it to do this ? Thanks That CT bleeds through to the inside so removal will leave holes. Probably best not to mess with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migmtl76 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, The-Collector said: That CT bleeds through to the inside so removal will leave holes. Probably best not to mess with it. Does that mean if the comic is slabbed by CGC, it will have a purple label . Looks like a C scale... Would it drop a complete grade (like 4.0 to 3.0?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, migmtl76 said: Does that mean if the comic is slabbed by CGC, it will have a purple label . Looks like a C scale... Would it drop a complete grade (like 4.0 to 3.0?) At this level it may be the case. To have all that CT scrapped off the book, you would lose some paper, especially around the top edge of the spine and the top staple. Unfortunate. Krismusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migmtl76 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, joeypost said: At this level it may be the case. To have all that CT scrapped off the book, you would lose some paper, especially around the top edge of the spine and the top staple. Unfortunate. Well the comic is still popular in restored grade but the value does drop alot. Do you think it's a 3.5 CGC restored ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It's going to get a restored grade so...... here's the new question. Should you now do FULL resto to maximize the grade? I'll bet with CT to the creases in the lower right, a cover cleaning, a pressing, and whatever other magic a pro restorer can do, that the grade on this might max out around 7.0. If it's going to be a PLOD, would you want a 3.0-3.5 PLOD or a 7.0 PLOD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJCohen Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 I would much rather sink the money into getting it back to a blue label. A couple holes are fine especially since it is along the edge. I’m super partial to blue label but to each their own and I think the cost to do the work would be significantly cheaper than a full restoration and a good shot that the book would be worth more at a lower grade blue. Good luck! The-Collector, Krismusic and migmtl76 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 hours ago, AJCohen said: I would much rather sink the money into getting it back to a blue label. A couple holes are fine especially since it is along the edge. I’m super partial to blue label but to each their own and I think the cost to do the work would be significantly cheaper than a full restoration and a good shot that the book would be worth more at a lower grade blue. Good luck! This. I don't know how much of that ink stain is ever going to come out and likely caps the grade at a 5.0. Krismusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migmtl76 Posted November 15, 2019 Author Share Posted November 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, The-Collector said: This. I don't know how much of that ink stain is ever going to come out and likely caps the grade at a 5.0. Caps at 5.0 blue label? How much does restoration cost about? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...