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2020 "THIS SCORE NEEDS FIXIN" REQUESTS
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Hi Matt,

Can Freckles and his Friends #8 please have its score adjusted. A 9.2 sold tonight for $930. An 8.5 sold November 2019 sold for $384. An 8.0 sold for $549.95 April 22nd of 2020.  Serial number 2066559005 for reference.

Thanks!

Score updated on 11/6/20. Thank you

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Many thanks for all the updates, Matt. These are all much needed to keep up with the times. Here some more of the same genre, as I previously listed, that need a boost.

Scores updated on 12/30/20. Thank you

Mister Mystery # 4  Gilmore 

PTS     GRADE      SALES     DATE

47          2.0            $362        12/2019

95          3.5              528         9/2020

126        4.5              960         8/2020

158        5.0              1016       11/2017

236        6.5              1375       12/2017

 

Mister Mystery # 6   great bondage cover

PTS     GRADE       SALES     DATE

47         2.0              $1276       8/2020

79         3.0                1295       9/2018

126       4.5                3360       6/2020

158       5.0                3914       5/2019

189       5.5                4080       5/2019

 

Mister Mystery # 7

PTS       GRADE      SALES       DATE

80            1.8            $379           9/2018

128          2.5              380           1/2020

256          4.5             1110          8/2020

320          5.0             1400          8/2019

425          6.0             2750          3/2020

 

Mister Mystery # 8  and # 10       these two have very comparable sales

PTS      GRADE      SALES        DATE

32          1.5             $340           4/2020    - #8

42          2.0               449          10/2019   - #8

71          3.0               350           9/2019    - #10

99          4.0               432           1/2020    - #8

99          4.0               528          11/2019   - #10

188        6.0               780           5/2019    - #10

297        7.0              1560          6/2019    - #8

 

Mister Mystery # 13

PTS      GRADE      SALES       DATE

53          3.0             $708          9/2019

63          3.5             1020          4/2019

105         5.0            1650           2/2020

126         5.5            1900           9/2019

158         6.5            3050           9/2019

 

Mister Mystery # 16

PTS     GRADE       SALES       DATE

32          2.0             $228           10/2019

63          3.5              528             11/2018

74          4.0              473             3/2018

126        5.5             1560            5/2020

140        6.0              1201            9/2017

 

Mister Mystery # 18     classic cover

PTS      GRADE       SALES      DATE

225          2.0             $600         12/2018

450          3.5             1320          11/2019

525          4.0             2600           4/2018

600          4.5             1900           3/2019

900          5.5             2060           8/2020

 

Horrific # 3    classic bullet in head cover

PTS      GRADE     SALES      DATE

38          0.5              $1100        7/2019

48          1.5                1761        8/2019

64          2.0                1697        2/2020

129       3.5                 1536        11/2019

150       4.0                 3350        9/2019

172       4.5                 2485        12/2019

 

Captain Flight # 11    classic LB Cole cover

PTS     GRADE      SALES       DATE

81          2.0            $830          2/2019

108        2.5             1005         9/2018

216        4.5             1650         3/2019

567        7.0             2600         6/2017

4050      9.2           13800         11/2018

 

Fight Against Crime # 20     classic decap. cover

PTS     GRADE     SALES     DATE

180       2.0            $6000       8/2020

300       3.0              4800        2/2020

360       3.5              4702        5/2020

420       4.0              6672        11/2019

900       6.5             12000       7/2020

4020     8.5             30000       7/2019

unbelievable stats

 

Startling Comics # 49     classic Schomberg cover

PTS      GRADE      SALES      DATE

260         1.0            $3100        6/2019

650         3.0              5400        9/2019

1560       5.5              7000        7/2018

5460       8.0              9900        12/2019

8710       8.5             23500       8/2020

19500     9.2             28300       8/2018

69000     9.6           101575       8/2016  Mile High copy

 

Fantastic Fears # 5    Farrell   features first pro-work by Steve Ditko

PTS       GRADE       SALES     DATE

132          3.5             $450         10/2012

220          5.0               837          5/2011

264          5.5              1458         7/2018

293          6.0              2500         9/2020

 

Weird Tales Of The Future # 2      classic Wolverton cover

PTS      GRADE      SALES      DATE

78          1.5            $592          9/2020

208        3.5              750           2/2020

277        4.5             1260          11/2019

347        5.0             1800          9/2019

728        7.0             3900          9/2018

 

Weird Tales Of The Future # 5     classic Wolverton cover

PTS     GRADE       SALES       DATE

173        3.0            $675            10/2016

208        3.5             1000           2/2020

243        4.0             1920           5/2020

347        5.0             2252           3/2020

728        7.0             2390           5/2015

 

Out of The shadows # 8   Standard     classic shrunken heads cover

PTS    GRADE      SALES      DATE

29         1.5            $281          12/2019

32         1.8             528           7/2020

51         2.5             797           6/2019

153       5.5            2450          8/2020

Not much recent data here, but this classic issue needs a serious bump.

 

Super-Mystery Comics  Vol 6 #3    Ace 1946   classic paper cutter beheading cover

PTS      GRADE      SALES     DATE

14          2.0             $1500       9/2020

45         5.0                2750       6/2017

68         6.5                1793       8/2016

Not much data here. But, no doubt, a scarce issue in high demand and needing a significant points boost.

 

Spellbound #3    Atlas   classic Russ Heath worm cover

PTS     GRADE      SALES      DATE

26           2.0            $302         9/2019

53           3.5             490          9/2020

62           4.0             696          7/2019

132         6.5           1487          7/2019

185         7.0           1984          12/2017

So many of these classic Atlas horror issues are undervalued.

 

War Fury # 1     Comic Media  classic bullet in head cover

PTS      GRADE       SALES      DATE

11           1.8              $344          10/2020

32           4.0               1260          5/2020

60           6.0               1991          12/2019

68           6.5               2280          5/2020

113         7.5               5280          5/2019

Whew, unreal sales on this book.

 

Thanks Matt for your time.

 

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On 10/27/2020 at 4:03 PM, StephenWA said:

Dear @Matt G

Since your note to @Sensei Ryan 17 August 2020 (in the "Add" thread) on setting the scores for these six comics at the default level, I have been tracking sales. I suggest that the scores can now be revised as follows:

Negan Lives! 1 = already correct at 40 points for 9.8U

Negan Lives! 1 Second Printing = already correct at 40 points for 9.8U

Negan Lives! 1 Silver Foil Edition = suggest slight uplift to 48 points for 9.8U (aligns with the sales price, interest, rarity of Special Edition 1 and/or the 132 Loot Crate Edition)

Negan Lives! 1 Gold Foil Edition = suggest uplift into the region of 64-104 points for 9.8U (price, interest, rarity between 150 Retailer Appreciation Edition and 171 Pink Lorenzo Signature Variant)

Negan Lives! 1 Second Printing/Bronze Foil Edition = suggest uplift into the region of 64-104 points for 9.8U (rational as Gold Foli above)

Negan Lives! 1 Red Foil Edition = suggest uplift into the region of 250-400 points for 9.8U (price, interest and rarity between Here's Negan Preview nn and 100 Ottley Sketch Cover)

Thank you for your consideration.

Kind regards

Stephen

Scores updated. 11/6/20 

Thank you

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Hey Matt, last group of Marvel Team-Ups, I swear.  This one will cover 101-150 and then I'm done for at least another 4-5 years on the MTU's!

Hello @Robert Doggett,

I increased a few of the books  on 12/30/20. Please note that I am increasing these books by 3 points on average in a 9.0 which does not qualify for a score bumps in the future. Please only request books that require a significant score boost. Thank you

Title - Issue               Reg pts  Last sale/90 day avg/12 mo avg

Marvel Team-Up 102    40         $125 Jun 2020

Marvel Team-Up 103    40          90 day avg: $143 (5 sales)

Marvel Team-Up 111     40         12 mo avg: $84 (3 sales) 

Marvel Team-Up 114     40         $100 Oct 2020

Marvel Team-Up 118     32         $78 Sep 2020

Marvel Team-Up 119     32         $100 Oct 2020

Marvel Team-Up 126     32         $89 Mar 2020

Marvel Team-Up 131     32         90 day avg: $860 (2 sales)

Marvel Team-Up 137     32         $85 Mar 2020

Marvel Team-Up 141     120       90 day avg: $554 (12 sales)

Marvel Team-Up 144     32         $123 Oct 2020

Marvel Team-Up 145     32         $80 Mar 2020

Marvel Team-Up 146     32         12 mo avg: $100 (2 sales)

As always, I appreciate any and all considerations you give to these point adjustments.

Kind regards

Rob

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please adjust Detective 29 points

recent sales:

CGC 5.0 ComicConnect Dec 2019 $107,000 -> 65000 points

CGC 5.5 Heritage Sep 2020 $102,000     -> 78000 points

CGC 5.0 Restored ComicLink 2020 $32500 -> 14300 points

Score updated 1/5/21. Thank you

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Hi Matt,

A few more books for your consideration

Amazing Spider-Man 800 Dell'otto virgin

This is retailing between 450 and 600 but only has a lowly 32 points

All scores increased on 1/5/21. Thank you

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My next book is Jean Grey 1 J Scott Campbell D variant. This is selling for in excess 150 and has a score of 35

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My next is one of my favourite characters Silver Surfer the best defense

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This sells for around $150image.png.2eaeb9b0469c4e3a8103d95382a096e3.png

 

My next books is a great star wars book:

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This is trading for around $150

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My next book is a Francesco Mattina Virgincover for Spawn 280, this copy has a remark and is double signed:

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The unsigned version sell for between $150 and $200

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I would appreciate the consideration, and I hope you are well

Regards

Robert

 

 

 

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All scores below updated on 1/5/21. I did not change TMNT #1 as the scores are accurate. The sales prices are actually all over the map for different grades. 

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Volume 1)

#1 first print  -  the score is wayyy too high -  yes it is the $$$ holy grail of the set but simply spending 10k dollars on a 9.0 shouldn't put you ahead of collectors that have spent ages building their sets

this should be 10000 for a 9.8   5000 for a 9.6   3000 for a 9.4  and then downward from there  (adjust 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th  prints to align to the new standard)

 

#3,4,5,6,7,18,32    2nd print(s) (and  #2 3rd print) -  these are  rarer and more sought after than the first prints -  scores should be significantly higher  - in order of rarity and difficulty to obtain   #32,#6,#4,#5,#18,#7,#3,#2

#11 and #14  - very hard to find issues   - scores need a mild bump

#13  impossible -  this is the grail of the back issues - I honestly would put this score at 1k++

#16 second only to #13 in rarity and extremely hard to find ( only 2      9.8 exist)

#17 and #28  very rare   with #28 being rarer

Raphael #1  this book is exploding right now - I would give it a bump

rest of set looks good with the exception of Raphael 2nd print (needs a score bump as well!)

 

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Wanted to mention a couple books which have skyrocketed in sales recently, to consider for score adjustment:

ASM Annual #1 increased on 1/5/21. Secret Wars #8 could not be increased. Our system works off an algorithm and I cannot change the score for the 10.0 without grossly overvaluing the 9.8 and lower scores

1. Amazing Spider-Man Annual #1 (1st appearance of the Sinister Six). All grades have been steadily increasing in price this year.

CGC 9.0 Off-White to White Pages sold in ComicLink auction this week for $14,361 (current points in grade = 6000).

CGC 7.5 Off-White to White Pages sold in ComicLink auction this week for $4,211 (current points in grade = 1500).

 

2. Marvel Superheroes Secret Wars #8 (Origin of Spider-Man’s Black costume which eventually becomes Venom)

CGC 10 GEM MINT sold in ComicLink auction this week for $32,255 (current points in grade = 1500)

This highest grade (1 of 4 copies exist) has also had sales in past 2 years as well (GPA), $9,000 in February 2018 and $14,000 in May 2019.

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On 11/30/2020 at 1:31 PM, Magmar said:

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (Volume 1)

#1 first print  -  the score is wayyy too high -  yes it is the $$$ holy grail of the set but simply spending 10k dollars on a 9.0 shouldn't put you ahead of collectors that have spent ages building their sets

this should be 10000 for a 9.8   5000 for a 9.6   3000 for a 9.4  and then downward from there  (adjust 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th  prints to align to the new standard)

 

#3,4,5,6,7,18,32    2nd print(s) (and  #2 3rd print) -  these are  rarer and more sought after than the first prints -  scores should be significantly higher  - in order of rarity and difficulty to obtain   #32,#6,#4,#5,#18,#7,#3,#2

#11 and #14  - very hard to find issues   - scores need a mild bump

#13  impossible -  this is the grail of the back issues - I honestly would put this score at 1k++

#16 second only to #13 in rarity and extremely hard to find ( only 2      9.8 exist)

#17 and #28  very rare   with #28 being rarer

Raphael #1  this book is exploding right now - I would give it a bump

rest of set looks good with the exception of Raphael 2nd print (needs a score bump as well!)

 

Vehemently disagree with this. Can we put it to consensus before changing anything on a long established set per the request of a new member with 2 posts. Thanks

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I actually increased the scores for both issues. 1/5/21. Thank you

Silver Surfer #3 (original run) lags behind other major issues in this series.  See below for comparison between SS 3 (1st app Mephisto) and SS 4 (awesome cover but no 1st apps).  The recent sales of 9.8s for these issues should be indicative of a point bump for SS3.  SS3 9.8 sold for $38,400 in Nov 2020, and SS4 9.8 (Rocky Mountain pedigree) sold for $17,900 in July 2020.

SS3 2018 2019 12m 90d Last Points $ (12m)/Point
9.8     38400 38400 38400 4667 8.227984
9.6 2100   5265 5250 5250 2917 1.804937
9.4 1055 2149 2429 2900 2900 1750 1.388
9.2 889 1811 1684 1725 1725 875 1.924571
9 577 1125 1108 1203 1300 583 1.900515
8.5 432 714 863 982 935 391 2.207161
8 327 521 648 795 950 245 2.644898
7.5 281 417 515 668 760 146 3.527397
7 242 368 444 568 599 123 3.609756
6.5 237 305 374 417 600 88 4.25
6 145 264 348 433 370 78 4.461538
5.5 167 232 328 397 410 70 4.685714
5   182 267 300 300 58 4.603448
4.5 150 194 240 275 275 47 5.106383
4 130 204 230 290 330 41 5.609756
3.5 65 176 222 274 262 35 6.342857
3   105 166 191 220 29 5.724138
2.5     157 165 132 23 6.826087

 

Compare these numbers with Silver Surfer #4

SS4 2018 2019 12m 90d Last Points $ (12m)/Point
9.8   16800 17900   17900 7600 2.355263
9.6 3711 5074 6195   7200 4750 1.304211
9.4 2025 2678 3350   3700 2850 1.175439
9.2 1428 2017 2183 2400 2520 1425 1.53193
9 1028 1523 1685 2205 2205 950 1.773684
8.5 830 1165 1436 1990 1700 637 2.254317
8 663 950 1133 1470 1470 399 2.839599
7.5 557 673 802 1013 1150 238 3.369748
7 466 603 690 793 766 200 3.45
6.5 374 486 571 775 775 143 3.993007
6 347 452 509 607 600 126 4.039683
5.5 321 418 514 569 514 114 4.508772
5 316 403 408 499 550 95 4.294737
4.5 225 315 357 441 450 76 4.697368
4 270 304 330   456 67 4.925373
3.5 188 277 294 300 300 57 5.157895
3 216 241 254   270 48 5.291667
2.5 173 155 214   250 38

5.631579

 

 

 

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On 12/13/2020 at 12:34 PM, pubmonkey said:

Vehemently disagree with this. Can we put it to consensus before changing anything on a long established set per the request of a new member with 2 posts. Thanks

Totally agree 1,000%
 

Along with REMOVING those 4 recent books added to the TMNT Registry in early December:    
Comics Journal 89     
Turtlemania Special    
Gobbledygook 84   
Gobbledygook 86

No rhyme or reason being in a non-custom set 

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