Disappointing Grade 0

[joeypost]

Keep in mind that some stains will show up under black light, and they wont be visible to the naked eye. 

Do agree something wonky is going on with that right edge. 

[One Shot Comics]

I agree with comicginger on this one- I think the grader mistook the cloud and sky artwork in the background as a stain. I seem to resemble past examples of distress lines added to the artwork of a cover for an "aging effect" being mistaken for actual distress on the book and lowering the grade.

[Point Five]

4 hours ago, lizards2 said:

It is mostly where the girder trails off the cover on the right edge - looks brown or dark red.  There appears to be a large indentation in the cover there as well.

+1

 

[The Lions Den]

I have seen otherwise beautiful books get knocked down to a 7.5 for a stain. It usually depends on size, severity and location...

 

[William-James88]

 

10 hours ago, Tessio68 said:

I hear ya. It's the chance you take when getting something graded. It's one opinion vs. another.

What are the opposing opinions in this case? Are you suggesting CGC is mistaken about the stain? Their legitimacy as a business (and your repeat business) depends on it being there.

Edited January 24, 2020 by William-James88

[James J Johnson]

12 hours ago, Callaway29 said:

CGC hammers stains.

Which is why Joey Post hates stains like he does; with a vengeance, backache or not!

[James J Johnson]

3 hours ago, The Lions Den said:

I have seen otherwise beautiful books get knocked down to a 7.5 for a stain. It usually depends on size, severity and location...

 

Tone too. Even what at first appears to be mild margin tanning can throw off the grade on a book with very limited flaws dues to wear! The Mannarino collection contains numerous books that look otherwise unflawed except for edge tone, and these are mostly CGC graded 8.0 and 8.5, as should they be.

[The Lions Den]

9 hours ago, William-James88 said:

 

What are the opposing opinions in this case? Are you suggesting CGC is mistaken about the stain? Their legitimacy as a business (and your repeat business) depends on it being there.

I doubt that CGC is mistaken about this...

[RonS2112]

It's hard to tell from the photos, but I think I see some spine roll.  Can't detect it from the front, but the back bottom pages look uneven to me.  Then, looking at the spine from the back, I see more front page color at the bottom than I do at the top.

Not sure what effect that should have on the overall grade, though.  Agree that this book presents very well from the front.

[William-James88]

2 hours ago, The Lions Den said:

I doubt that CGC is mistaken about this...

I agree 100% hence why I don't understand what is meant when saying there's an issue of opinions here.

[RonS2112]

12 hours ago, William-James88 said:

 

What are the opposing opinions in this case? Are you suggesting CGC is mistaken about the stain? Their legitimacy as a business (and your repeat business) depends on it being there.

Now that it's been pointed out, that stain is hard to miss.......big, brown, and gnarly.  Would be interesting to be able to look at the inside front cover, where it would presumably be more dramatic.

[WoWitHurts]

Not for nothing but how is he holding that I beam with his left hand/arm? I thought he only had one Bionic arm.

[Point Five]

2 hours ago, RonS2112 said:

Now that it's been pointed out, that stain is hard to miss.......big, brown, and gnarly.

Yeah, that 7.5 was a definite gift grade.
 

[Tessio68]

Thats not a stain thats part of the art work

 

[theCapraAegagrus]

On 1/23/2020 at 6:29 PM, Point Five said:

+1

Yup. I see it now. Definitely looks like a stain.

[comicquant]

On 1/23/2020 at 9:59 AM, Tessio68 said:

According to the grader note  "stain right center of front cover"  

 

I see the stain at the end of the steel girder.  Thats a 2 point stain for sure.  It actually looks like it either removed or receded a portion of the cover.